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Re: Having a hell of a time with the VCS...

2010-01-25 by Doug

Hi, Glad you got #2 working. When you say "removing other PCBs downstream", that could indicate bad grounding practices or a multitude of other issues. Can you elaborate a bit? I'm not familiar with this particular board but it might be helpful to see clear photos of the board, i

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Re: Having a hell of a time with the VCS...

2010-01-25 by derekatumaticdotnl

Second problem of the wobbling voltage fixed by removing some other PCBs further downstream (DC Mixers + Analog Voltage, will be debuggered later), so that VCS works fine. The first one is still kaput however. Suggestions welcome! D. --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "derekatuma

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Having a hell of a time with the VCS...

2010-01-24 by derekatumaticdotnl

...and unfortunately it's not the fun kind. I have two VCS boards assembled. Neither do what they are supposed to. The first has voltage and pot control of the slopes, input also works, lin/exp switch is fine, I get slopes out, but the end-out and trigger arrangement do nothing.

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-15 by frank death

Yes, sorry, i was in another world (a 3.5mm one!) :) --- On Fri, 15/1/10, sasami@... sasami@... > wrote: From: sasami@... sasami@... > Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] How to debug non-working modules... To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com Received: Friday, 15 January, 2010, 2:35 AM >Are all y

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-15 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>Are all your jacks grounded? It's hard to ground a banana jack!! Ken > >--- On Sat, 9/1/10, Guy guy@... > wrote: > >From: Guy guy@... > >Subject: [cgs_synth] How to debug non-working modules... >To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com >Received: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 11:08 PM > > > >

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Re: Utility LFO (was:How to debug non-working modules) -- solved !

2010-01-15 by frank death

oops sorry, i missed this one! --- On Sun, 10/1/10, Guy guy@... > wrote: From: Guy guy@... > Subject: [cgs_synth] Re: Utility LFO (was:How to debug non-working modules) -- solved ! To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com Received: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 11:48 PM Found it ! Accidentally

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-15 by frank death

Are all your jacks grounded? --- On Sat, 9/1/10, Guy guy@... > wrote: From: Guy guy@... > Subject: [cgs_synth] How to debug non-working modules... To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com Received: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 11:08 PM ...more specifically the Utility LFO, to start with. Wire

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Re: 4-channel gate sequencer cgs07 problem

2010-01-14 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Try adding more decoupling capacitors especially around the 4017. both 100n and 10uF. Also add them to the buffer boards. Ken >apologies if this has been addressed here but i could not find it. > >i have a 4-channel gate sequencer with a problem i want to hunt down again. >whenev

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4-channel gate sequencer cgs07 problem

2010-01-13 by loop

apologies if this has been addressed here but i could not find it. i have a 4-channel gate sequencer with a problem i want to hunt down again. whenever three or more channels are active on one stage, the gate sequencer skips the following step. example: loop mode chan 1,2,3 activ

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Interconnected - 'Current Flow' (VU-US018) album Out Soon! (full of

2010-01-13 by Bakis Sirros

Vu-us is very proud to present their newest release: Interconnected - “Current Flow”.(VU-US018) Interconnected is a collaborative electronica/ idm/ experimental project between Bakis Sirros (of Parallel Worlds, Memory Geist) and Ingo Zobel (of DRON, Signalform, Self Oscillate, Da

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Re: Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-12 by Richard Brewster

Yes, a 4.7uf mylar is LARGE: http://pugix.com/synth/dual-tellun-lag-processor/ That's the Tellun lag, but similar idea. You could use the Mouser part I listed for that cap. If you can make it fit! You could also try a 4.7uf non-polar electrolytic, which is the equivalent of what

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Re: Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-12 by Dave Kendall

Hi. FWIW, Rapid electronics in the UK do some 4u7 non-polar caps. Not too expensive either... ;-) http://www.rapidonline.com stock no; 10-5782 or stock no; 10-4110 hope this helps.... cheers, Dave On Jan 11, 2010, at 23:35, Doug wrote: > Amateurs are most welcome. ;-) > > I will

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Re: Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-11 by Jason Proctor

i made a couple of Bissell Lags a while back, from CGS PCBs IIRC. worked fine with no issues. i can probably look up what cap i used in my Mouser order history if anyone needs to know. >Amateurs are most welcome. ;-) > >I will probably be adding one or more of Harry's LAGs to my

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Re: Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-11 by Doug

Amateurs are most welcome. ;-) I will probably be adding one or more of Harry's LAGs to my SteamSynth project very soon. I looked over the circuit and realized that 4.7uf (4M7???) is a VERY large mylar cap. I doubt it is easily available, if at all. This MUST be a non-polarized c

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Re: Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-10 by Guy

Here's the amateur of the group (the one with the now-fixed LFO)... Tantaliums are indeed polarized. Long lead is +. I don't think you can replace a mylar with a tant. Don't tell Ken tho, he dislikes tantaliums. ;-) _g --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "dumpstatic" wrote: > > I

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Re: Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-10 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>Question #1 - would the absence of those 4 decoupling caps cause the 10uF electrolytic caps to get quite hot? No. Having the voltage across them the wrong way is what makes them hot. >Question #2 - I have a 4.7uF Tant cap where a mylar is suggested. Are Tant caps polarized? (one

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Re: Utility LFO (was:How to debug non-working modules) -- solved !

2010-01-10 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

> >Found it ! >Accidentally used a 100k instead of the 150k across p12 & p14 (Schmitt Trigger). Strangely enough, the other LFO has that 100k there too, but worked... Must have been borderline, with the tollerances being the difference. Ken _______________________________________

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Harry Bissell Lag issues

2010-01-10 by dumpstatic

I can't find my docs for the Lag PCBs I have, but I have Harry's circuit diagram for help. I powered it up last night and it did some really strange stuff. Looking at the backside, I realized there should be some decoupling caps on the back... oops... Question #1 - would the abse

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Re: Utility LFO (was:How to debug non-working modules) -- solved !

2010-01-10 by Guy

Found it ! Accidentally used a 100k instead of the 150k across p12 & p14 (Schmitt Trigger). Strangely enough, the other LFO has that 100k there too, but worked... ? Glad I got everything working now. Thanks for the help. _g --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Guy" wrote: > > No +

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-10 by Guy

> LFO still isn't working though. Vari & Mix outputs still spitting out a steady negative voltage, but Pulse & Square now going positive (only)... I meant "LFO 2". The other one is working. srry. _g

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-10 by Guy

No +V going to the chips. The +V bead wasn't soldered properly... how dumb. LFO still isn't working though. Vari & Mix outputs still spitting out a steady negative voltage, but Pulse & Square now going positive (only)... Hmmm... onwards. _g --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Guy

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-10 by Guy

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , sasami@... wrote: > > >Okay, so it's probably not those. I'm quite certain the speed & shape pots > are wired correctly. > > Something is preventing them from oscillating. Whatever it is, that is what > you need to find. Make sure your 1N4148 di

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-10 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

>Okay, so it's probably not those. I'm quite certain the speed & shape pots are wired correctly. Something is preventing them from oscillating. Whatever it is, that is what you need to find. Make sure your 1N4148 diodes are in the right direction. Also make sure that both power r

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-10 by Guy

Okay, so it's probably not those. I'm quite certain the speed & shape pots are wired correctly. But I'm wondering, which part of the PCB is LFO1 and which is LFO2 ? Not sure if that matters, but it's most likely that I've done the swap/join switches not correctly. I've hooked up

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Re: How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-09 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

The first step would to be to find out why it is not oscillating, so investigate the circuit around that area - and that means the speed pot and the shape pot. Getting two wires to a pot swapped could well kill it. Ken >...more specifically the Utility LFO, to start with. > >Wire

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How to debug non-working modules...

2010-01-09 by Guy

...more specifically the Utility LFO, to start with. Wired it up, with Join/Swap switches. +/-12V feed, banana jacks. LEDs don't flash, but a quick DVM measuring at the outputs gives me app. -4V on most and even -8V on some other outputs (the Vari's, I think). The output voltages

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Re: Cynare Noise issues...

2010-01-03 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Yes, the filter will resonate like that. Ken > > >> I just finished the Cynare, I get a steady tone when I turn the envelope dial to the left(negative i think) it starts as I hit 0 and get more intense the farther left I go. When it's in this state I can adjust the sound with the

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Re: cgs22 master divider troubleshooting help

2010-01-02 by goodnessgrows

it was a bad 4024, a new one fixed it. thanks for the help, it is much appreciated. --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "goodnessgrows" wrote: > > Thanks again Ken. Pin 9 of all 4070s read 14.6v. I checked at the pin on the IC and on the solder side of the board. > > --- In cgs_sy

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Re: Dual pot alternatives?

2010-01-02 by legion01x

Hmmm, the idea of a variable bandwidth actually sounds interesting. I'm using the circuit in an external processing box (not a synth module) so will have to give it a try. Thanks for the info! --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , sasami@... wrote: > > Dual pots are used when two pa

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Re: Dual pot alternatives?

2010-01-02 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Dual pots are used when two parameters need to be controlled in parallel, and having them operate independently would not be beneficial, or would be outright bad. That said, in this case, you may get away with it. Your two filter parts (upper and lower) would be adjusted independ

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Dual pot alternatives?

2010-01-02 by legion01x

I'm building the band pass filter and have run into other projects that require dual pots. I have a few dual 1mg pots in stock but was wondering what the mechanical difference a dual pot offers over either two single pots or if it was possible to wires single to both throws on th

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Re: Cynare Noise issues...

2009-12-31 by zasabo

> I just finished the Cynare, I get a steady tone when I turn the envelope dial to the left(negative i think) it starts as I hit 0 and get more intense the farther left I go. When it's in this state I can adjust the sound with the VCF Freq and Res Dials. I think I was just pushin

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Cynare Noise issues...

2009-12-31 by zasabo

Hi, Please bear with me as this is my first build and I am new to synthesizers in general, altho not new to electronics... I just finished the Cynare, I get a steady tone when I turn the envelope dial to the left(negative i think) it starts as I hit 0 and get more intense the far

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Re: CGS64 VCA CV question.

2009-12-25 by Dave Kendall

Thanks Doug! Will maybe finish the build later today....... :-) cheers, Dave On Dec 25, 2009, at 09:45, Doug wrote: > Dave, > > Ding! Yup that's the one, with the 47pf cap across it. I doubt > anything else needs to change. > > Doug > > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , Dave Ken

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Re: CGS64 VCA CV question.

2009-12-25 by Doug

Dave, Ding! Yup that's the one, with the 47pf cap across it. I doubt anything else needs to change. Doug --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , Dave Kendall wrote: > > Hi all. > > An easy one hopefully......... > > The input CV is specified as 0 - 5V. If I wanted to change it to 0 -

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CGS64 VCA CV question.

2009-12-25 by Dave Kendall

Hi all. An easy one hopefully......... The input CV is specified as 0 - 5V. If I wanted to change it to 0 - 10V, would the 47K resistor between pins 1 and 2 of the CV summing opamp be the one to change? Would any other components need to be changed if this is done? cheers, Dave

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Re: Utility LFO Waveforms

2009-12-21 by joshdaigleusa

Never mind - dug far enough back and found my answer :) --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "joshdaigleusa" wrote: > > I never saw this answered or explained - I'm building this soon and am curious about adding a range switch. > > Thanks. > > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "To

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Re: Utility LFO Waveforms

2009-12-21 by joshdaigleusa

I never saw this answered or explained - I'm building this soon and am curious about adding a range switch. Thanks. --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Tom Adam" wrote: > > Whatever you decide, leave place for the range switches. > > I stated with an on-off-on toggle switch, but

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Re: cgs22 master divider troubleshooting help

2009-12-13 by goodnessgrows

Thanks again Ken. Pin 9 of all 4070s read 14.6v. I checked at the pin on the IC and on the solder side of the board. --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , sasami@... wrote: > > Check that pin 9 of the 4070 really does go to +ve. It may be floating. > > Ken > > >Thanks very much Ken.

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Re: cgs22 master divider troubleshooting help

2009-12-12 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Check that pin 9 of the 4070 really does go to +ve. It may be floating. Ken >Thanks very much Ken. > >There's continuity between the 4070 pin 8, and the 4024 pin 12, and I replaced the jumper that's in the path just to make sure it wasn't those joints. > >There is also some anoma

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Re: cgs22 master divider troubleshooting help

2009-12-12 by goodnessgrows

Thanks very much Ken. There's continuity between the 4070 pin 8, and the 4024 pin 12, and I replaced the jumper that's in the path just to make sure it wasn't those joints. There is also some anomalous behaviour in the div4 outputs. instead of being properly offset in phase, 3C &

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Re: cgs22 master divider troubleshooting help

2009-12-12 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

The fault would be with a bad connection between the 4070 (pin 8) and the 4024 (pin 12). Possibly a missing link, or a bad joint or break in the track. The counter is working fine if all other outputs are behaving. Ken >i recently built the cgs master divider, and am having troub

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cgs22 master divider troubleshooting help

2009-12-12 by goodnessgrows

i recently built the cgs master divider, and am having trouble isolating a couple of problems (possibly one problem with two symptoms). everything works fine, except: 2A stays at 5v, and 2C stays at 0v. the other "2" divisions work fine. i swapped out the transistors related to t

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Re: How does the Negative Slew work?

2009-11-29 by Tim

Steve has kindly answered my question over at the SergeModular group: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular/message/6497 - basically the emitter-base junction is used in reverse as a 7V zener diode!! Tim --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com , "Tim" wrote: > > Hi list, > I

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How does the Negative Slew work?

2009-11-29 by Tim

Hi list, I recently posted this at the SergeModular Yahoo group, but it was suggested that here might be a better place, so here goes!: I'm trying to simulate the Negative Slew from this schematic: http://www.cgs.synth.net/synth/serge/pic/serge_negative_slew_schem.gif I'm trying

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Re: rrm interface circuits

2009-11-22 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

See the Active Real Ring modulator - CGS67. It has the buffering as part of it. You also need a power supply and a second signal source, such as an oscillator. Have a look at the Frostwave Blue Ringer for inspiration. Ken >i realise the website says "if you don't know, don't ask.

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rrm interface circuits

2009-11-22 by Jason Proctor

i realise the website says "if you don't know, don't ask..." :-) a musician friend asked me to build him a ring modulator, and after determining that he was after a hardware one rather than a software one (you have to check, these days...) i thought that building a *real* one wou

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Stuff for Sale

2009-11-07 by Jan-Ahrent Czmok

Thanks for your Bandwidth ! Some stuff for sale: 1 x keyboard for synthesizer - 50 EUR 10 x CGS-LD (Ken Stone) - 1 EUR per PCB 1 x CGS24 Gate to Trig - 2 EUR 3 x Silent:arts HWBP (Bypass PCB) for D-AOC - 5 EUR per PCB 6 x knobs 15mm 7mm inside - 5 EUR / set 5 bands (10 each) of A

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More modules for sale

2009-11-06 by Thomas Garrison

Hello, I have the following modules for sale. They are on 19" custom black panels. They vary from 1U panel up to 5U panel. All panels are 1/8" jacks. Here are the modules: First panel: CGS Programmer Sequencer 4 channels - 8 steps each channel with two Thomas Henry SN Voices 5U p

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CGS75 VCS Euro Format - Rise is not working

2009-10-27 by Jon

I just finished building my VCS last night. Fall works as it should with both the knob and the CV inputs. Rise on the other hand seems to be almost dead. When I look at the output on a scope I can see the rise knob effects the slope but very slightly and not enough to actually do

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