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Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by rbehr2001

I'm currently using an Epson 1280 with UT2 for B&W and a 2200 with
Ultrachrome inks for color. The 1280 seems to have major clogging
issues that I don't seem to be able to resolve.

The question is, since I seldom print color (every couple weeks),
should I buy UT7 CIS inks for B&W on the 2200 and then put the
Ultrachrome back for the ocassional color print or should I get
replacement 1280. The 2200 seems to have less clogging problems and
probably higher quality B&W prints. I think I would go this way unless
there is a problenm with periodic ink cartridge changes.

Thanks

RE: [Digital BW] Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Paul Roark

I think most of the 1280 problems were cart problems.  If you haven't tried
the new sponge-less carts, that might be the first step.  My 1280 was about
to get thrown in the trash before the new easy-refill, spongeless carts
arrived.  So far, they've been great.

I do not recommend continuous feed systems.  The easy-refill carts for 2200
are also excellent.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 2200 & switching inks
> 
> 
> 
> I'm currently using an Epson 1280 with UT2 for B&W and a 2200 with
> Ultrachrome inks for color. The 1280 seems to have major clogging
> issues that I don't seem to be able to resolve.
> 
> The question is, since I seldom print color (every couple weeks),
> should I buy UT7 CIS inks for B&W on the 2200 and then put the
> Ultrachrome back for the ocassional color print or should I get
> replacement 1280. The 2200 seems to have less clogging problems and
> probably higher quality B&W prints. I think I would go this way unless
> there is a problenm with periodic ink cartridge changes.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
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1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Bob Michaels

"Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > I think most of the 1280
problems were cart problems. 

After singing the praises of the 1280 with pigmnet inks for years, I'm
now wondering if there is some long term use clogging issues with
pigment. Possibly there is some residual pigment build up over time
that accentuates clogs. My original 1280 became more and more prone to
clogs with pigments as it got older. It still cleaned up and worked
well with dye but the pigment probem worsened. I replaced it with a
new 1280 and the probelm went away. Now I'm hearing from others that
are experiencing the same. 

Jim Arnold says he now has this problem with his 1280 and is using
carts filled with windex to try to clear it. He's getting globs of
black pigment breaking loose while printing with Windex. 

Does any of this match with your experience using the 1280?

I agree that most of the problems are with carts and the new 1280 EZ
fill carts are great. But this doesn't seem to be a cart related
problem.  

Bob Michaels

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Andrei Aderca

Bob

Your experience matches mine to a large extent, this is one of the 
reasons why I upgraded
to a 2200. I used a 1280 with CIS for about 6 months and found the 
clogging to get
worse, especially on the black nozzle. Tried every method in the book 
with Windex,
also unplugging the CIS and using dye carts to try getting a clean 
nozzle check is also
a pain- so I guess that from this point of view, using the EZ fill carts 
at least makes it
less painful when you have a stubborn clog. I am not sure either that 
the issue is in the
cart design, my 1280 is now retired, I acquired the printhead 
installation software but
I'm still considering whether it is worth putting in a new printhead, 
given that I would not
use it for anything else except pigment.
The old printhead had build-up on the black nozzle, or spigot, don't 
know exactly how
to call that part, but it's a little plastic piece which is cone shaped, 
with minute holes in it.
I could not remove it with Windex and really did not want to consider 
anything else more
drastic.
I also have a C84 and it seems more robust in terms of clogging,  must 
be the printhead
design for Durabrite inks.
Just a silly remark but could be that the spongeless EZ carts keep the 
spigots in the head
"whetted" to a better extent than the conventional design.

Regards

Andrei

Bob Michaels wrote:

>
> "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > I think most of the 1280
> problems were cart problems.
>
> After singing the praises of the 1280 with pigmnet inks for years, I'm
> now wondering if there is some long term use clogging issues with
> pigment. Possibly there is some residual pigment build up over time
> that accentuates clogs. My original 1280 became more and more prone to
> clogs with pigments as it got older. It still cleaned up and worked
> well with dye but the pigment probem worsened. I replaced it with a
> new 1280 and the probelm went away. Now I'm hearing from others that
> are experiencing the same.
>
> Jim Arnold says he now has this problem with his 1280 and is using
> carts filled with windex to try to clear it. He's getting globs of
> black pigment breaking loose while printing with Windex.
>
> Does any of this match with your experience using the 1280?
>
> I agree that most of the problems are with carts and the new 1280 EZ
> fill carts are great. But this doesn't seem to be a cart related
> problem. 
>
> Bob Michaels
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Steve Kale

For what it's worth I find the MIS magenta UC equivalent inks to be really
bad - both M and LM.  I get continual bad clogs even with the new carts.
The other inks are not nearly as bad.
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> From: Andrei Aderca <aderca@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:02:21 -0500
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was:  Epson 2200 & switching
> inks
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> Your experience matches mine to a large extent, this is one of the
> reasons why I upgraded
> to a 2200. I used a 1280 with CIS for about 6 months and found the
> clogging to get
> worse, especially on the black nozzle. Tried every method in the book
> with Windex,
> also unplugging the CIS and using dye carts to try getting a clean
> nozzle check is also
> a pain- so I guess that from this point of view, using the EZ fill carts
> at least makes it
> less painful when you have a stubborn clog. I am not sure either that
> the issue is in the
> cart design, my 1280 is now retired, I acquired the printhead
> installation software but
> I'm still considering whether it is worth putting in a new printhead,
> given that I would not
> use it for anything else except pigment.
> The old printhead had build-up on the black nozzle, or spigot, don't
> know exactly how
> to call that part, but it's a little plastic piece which is cone shaped,
> with minute holes in it.
> I could not remove it with Windex and really did not want to consider
> anything else more
> drastic.
> I also have a C84 and it seems more robust in terms of clogging,  must
> be the printhead
> design for Durabrite inks.
> Just a silly remark but could be that the spongeless EZ carts keep the
> spigots in the head
> "whetted" to a better extent than the conventional design.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Andrei
> 
>

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Diane Fields

Just coincidence, but this morning I was trying to get my 1280 back online (I think my USB cable may be bad after reloading the driver and still no success) and the several posts this morning have covinced me to really 'retire' it.  I was contemplating trying some MIS carts, but now I think I will stick with the 2200 which I like very much. 

I had not had too many problems with it with OEM inks, but had only kept it going to be able to print once a week or so (until recently) just to keep it unclogged.  I never print with it--if I want a glossy one off for a client, I just print on my husband's networked 875, so was glad to read that others just didn't feel it worthwhile to deal with the 1280 as a pigmented printer.  I had spent time on the MIS page this morning trying to decide the best way to go---but now--its moot.

Diane
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Kale 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks


  For what it's worth I find the MIS magenta UC equivalent inks to be really
  bad - both M and LM.  I get continual bad clogs even with the new carts.
  The other inks are not nearly as bad.



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Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Kelsang Drime

This thread has come just in time. I ordered and have received a 1280
to start on my B&W printing adventure, using MIS inks. My plan is to
start BO and then perhaps try the UT2 set at some point.

The 1280 is still in the box. Should I return it?

I bought this rather than the 2200 because of cost but if it is going
to     clog with increasing frequency then perhaps I should rethink.
Maybe go with a C84 until I can afford a 2200.

All input will be gratefully received.

Thanks

Drime

P.S. Don't much care for the new Yahoo look/layout either

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Bob Michaels

"Kelsang Drime" <kdrime@h...> wrote:. The 1280 is still in the box.
Should I return it?

I would suggest using it. If it develops the problem we are
discussing, you will have gotten a few years use out of it, spent 2X
what you paid for the printer on paper and almost as much on ink. At
the price they are a great deal even if they only last a few years.
And the prints are great. 

Also consider:
1) this potential problem may or may not be real. Don't draw firm
conclusions from a few posts (including mine)
2) if real, they may be a solution. 

Bob Michaels

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Diane Fields

I will say that I tend to agree with that.  I used mine for color printing for a number of years (OEM inks) --printing many hundreds of prints--and now (I finally got it printing again--reinstalled driver yet again) I have a very persistent clog.  Not sure I will worry about it and just retire it, but I loved this printer for a good number of years.  And--they are really reasonably priced now--altho' they look different than mine (is this what is being referred to as the 'silver' 1280--the new one??)

Diane
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---- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Michaels 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks



  "Kelsang Drime" <kdrime@h...> wrote:. The 1280 is still in the box.
  Should I return it?

  I would suggest using it. If it develops the problem we are
  discussing, you will have gotten a few years use out of it, spent 2X
  what you paid for the printer on paper and almost as much on ink. At
  the price they are a great deal even if they only last a few years.
  And the prints are great. 

  Also consider:
  1) this potential problem may or may not be real. Don't draw firm
  conclusions from a few posts (including mine)
  2) if real, they may be a solution. 

  Bob Michaels



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Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Steven Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Kelsang Drime" 
<kdrime@h...> wrote:
> 
> This thread has come just in time. I ordered and have received a 
1280
> to start on my B&W printing adventure, using MIS inks. My plan is 
to
> start BO and then perhaps try the UT2 set at some point.
> 
> The 1280 is still in the box. Should I return it?
> 
> I bought this rather than the 2200 because of cost but if it is 
going
> to     clog with increasing frequency then perhaps I should 
rethink.
> Maybe go with a C84 until I can afford a 2200.
> 
> All input will be gratefully received.
> 
> Thanks

Drime;

I used a 1280 with pigments for about a year; my opinion is that the 
majority of the 'clogs' are due to those miserable foam-filled carts 
that are virtually impossible to get air bubbles out of after the 
foam has built up. Buy a couple sets of the new 1280 carts if you 
haven't already, and if you have a clogging problem, you can fill 
one with cleaning fluid if need be. Most will disagree with my next 
suggestion, but I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never 
even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing 
the two may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.

Steve Karafyllakis

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Drime

Dear Steve,

I have the new carts. It was and still is my intention to load the
printer with MIS inks from the very start. In fact that was going to
be my next question!

Thanks

Drime

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
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> 

> I used a 1280 with pigments for about a year; my opinion is that the 
> majority of the 'clogs' are due to those miserable foam-filled carts 
> that are virtually impossible to get air bubbles out of after the 
> foam has built up. Buy a couple sets of the new 1280 carts if you 
> haven't already, and if you have a clogging problem, you can fill 
> one with cleaning fluid if need be. Most will disagree with my next 
> suggestion, but I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never 
> even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing 
> the two may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by John Vitollo

"Kelsang Drime" <kdrime@h...>  
> This thread has come just in time. I ordered and have received a 1280
> to start on my B&W printing adventure, using MIS inks. My plan is to
> start BO and then perhaps try the UT2 set at some point.
> The 1280 is still in the box. Should I return it?

Keep it and use it. Maybe don't buy the CFS at first, but go for the refillable carts. If there 
is a problem clog that can not be fixed, within the first year, call Epson to exchange it for a 
new one.

I have a 1280 and it works very well and not temperamental at all. My 1280 got off to a 
shaky start because of a bad CFS but MIS resolved the problem and have very few clogs.

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Stephen Veillette

I bought a new 1280 a few months ago and loaded it with UT2 inks straight away... gave 
the OEM inks to a friend who prints color.  I have subsequently switched to UT-FSN, and I 
have not had any problems-- the nozzle checks are perfect every time, even after sitting 
unused for a week or more.

My old 870 had issues.  First, it was old.  Second, I had used the Epson OEM inks in it first, 
then the Lyson Quad Black inks, then finally the MIS QVM inks.  Towards the end, I pretty 
much had to clean the heads any time I wanted to print.  It even had a total meltdown a 
while back where nothing would come out of the print head... took it out, cleaned it 
thoroughly, and reinstalled it... even used the Epson maintenance program to re-align 
everything.  It worked great for a while, but then it started flaking out again.

I think the ink-mixing theory has merit, though my 1280 is still very new and it's not really 
a valid comparison, but my experience with the 870 makes me believe this.

-Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Drime" <kdrime@h...> wrote:
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> 
> Dear Steve,
> 
> I have the new carts. It was and still is my intention to load the
> printer with MIS inks from the very start. In fact that was going to
> be my next question!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Drime
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
> > 
> 
> > I used a 1280 with pigments for about a year; my opinion is that the 
> > majority of the 'clogs' are due to those miserable foam-filled carts 
> > that are virtually impossible to get air bubbles out of after the 
> > foam has built up. Buy a couple sets of the new 1280 carts if you 
> > haven't already, and if you have a clogging problem, you can fill 
> > one with cleaning fluid if need be. Most will disagree with my next 
> > suggestion, but I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never 
> > even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing 
> > the two may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.
> > 
> > Steve Karafyllakis

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Diane Fields

I'm wondering, after reading several threads (now that I have my old 1280 printing correctly again) if, since I used OEM inks in it for years, if it will work reasonably successfully with the MIS carts--or if I'm better off to stick with my 2200 and QTR.

Diane
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Veillette 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks


  I think the ink-mixing theory has merit, though my 1280 is still very new and it's not really 
  a valid comparison, but my experience with the 870 makes me believe this.

  -Steve



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Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by bfwoolner

My refurbished 1280 has been clog and otherwise trouble free using MIS UT 
and UT2 inks.  I've been using it for 11/2 years.  I've used MIS filled 
carts and filled my own using both the UT and UT2 inks.  Never a problem.
Barbara
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelsang Drime" <kdrime@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching 
inks




This thread has come just in time. I ordered and have received a 1280
to start on my B&W printing adventure, using MIS inks. My plan is to
start BO and then perhaps try the UT2 set at some point.

The 1280 is still in the box. Should I return it?

I bought this rather than the 2200 because of cost but if it is going
to     clog with increasing frequency then perhaps I should rethink.
Maybe go with a C84 until I can afford a 2200.

All input will be gratefully received.

Thanks

Drime

P.S. Don't much care for the new Yahoo look/layout either







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Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Andrei Aderca

I have not used them myself but from what I understand, Lyson inks have 
a different pH so
flip-flopping without using the cleaning fluid would be a problem. As 
far as using OEM dye carts
to try getting rid of a rebel clog, I think that the solvent in the dye 
inks is actually the one doing
the heavy-duty work. I am not sure what solution is used to dilute the 
pigments but it seems to be less
effective in that task.

Regards

Andrei

Steven Karafyllakis wrote:
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>
>
>
> Drime;
>
> I used a 1280 with pigments for about a year; my opinion is that the
> majority of the 'clogs' are due to those miserable foam-filled carts
> that are virtually impossible to get air bubbles out of after the
> foam has built up. Buy a couple sets of the new 1280 carts if you
> haven't already, and if you have a clogging problem, you can fill
> one with cleaning fluid if need be. Most will disagree with my next
> suggestion, but I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never
> even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing
> the two may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.
>
> Steve Karafyllakis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by bfwoolner

I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never
even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing the two 
may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching 
inks


An addendum to my last post - I never installed the OEM dye carts in my 1280 
before using the MIS inks.  May be a key as Steve suggests.
Barbara

< I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never
even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing the two 
may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.>

<Steve Karafyllakis >








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Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-26 by Diane Fields

That's what I keep reading.  My 1280 has been around a good long while--can't remember when I got it, but its been used quite a lot until I bought the 2200 over 2 years ago and its not been used too much since--but, of course, was used with OEM inks all that while.

Diane
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bfwoolner 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks


  I'm of the opinion the OEM dye carts should never
  even touch the machine if you're going to put pigments in it. Mixing the two 
  may be a bigger source of trouble than we think.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Steven Karafyllakis" <steve@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching 
  inks


  An addendum to my last post - I never installed the OEM dye carts in my 1280 
  before using the MIS inks.  May be a key as Steve suggests.
  Barbara



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RE: [Digital BW] 1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-27 by Seth

Run cleaning fluid carts first, even though MIS says you don't need to.
Even Windex-filled carts.

Then switch.

Seth 

==-----Original Message-----
==From: Diane Fields [mailto:picnic@...] 
==
==I'm wondering, after reading several threads (now that I have 
==my old 1280 printing correctly again) if, since I used OEM 
==inks in it for years, if it will work reasonably successfully 
==with the MIS carts--or if I'm better off to stick with my 
==2200 and QTR.
==
==Diane

1280 w Pigmnet clogs, was: Epson 2200 & switching inks

2005-03-28 by Thomas Keesling

> The 1280 is still in the box. Should I return it?

I wouldn't. I just bought my second 1280 to use with UT2 inks. My original 
1280 is over four years old and has seen moderate use over that time with 
only pigment inks. The failure, when it came, was apparently due to a 
circuit board problem according to members of this group who had previously 
experienced the problem I'm now seeing. Until this problem cropped up, this 
printer was performing nearly flawlessly. That's why I bought another and 
plan to transfer my old CIS with UT2 inks from the old to the new one.

Tom Keesling
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