Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by STEVEN HOLDER
I think it's a great idea. Regards [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by Roland Jollivet
Yip, crazy to want to start printing magazines. An idea that I like is one of collaborative projects. For example, an autopilot RC craft. A team is assembled, tasks allocated, and all info is shared on the net. Only team members can edit files. Of course, it can get messy, and th
Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by John Samperi
At 03:15 PM 22/12/2009, you wrote: >Starting an AVR magazine. I believe Chuck Baird (recently published in Servo magazine) or someone else on AVRfreaks had the same idea but gave up. Regards John Samperi ******************************************************** Ampertronics Pty. L
Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by MoreOrLess
I think you are OUT-OF-YOUR-MIND! Are you must be a glutton for punishment. I also think its a great idea. I'm might be interested in contributing an article or two but as you can tell I'm not much of a writer. Making sense of my grammar will give a editor a full time job. But go
Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by blue_eagle74
When I posted this thread, this is what I was looking at: Starting an AVR magazine. It would take alot of work. It would include anything about AVR's. It would take: time, user submissions (membership input and complete projects), paid subscriptions plus shipping, finding sponsor
Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by Dave Hylands
HI Mike, On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:11 PM, MoreOrLess wrote: > Interesting thread but back to the topic of AVR Magazine. I have subscribed to Servo since the premiere issue. While an AVR article shows up now and then they are few and far between. Most are for the PIC family. If Se
Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by John Samperi
At 10:08 AM 22/12/2009, you wrote: >I was thinking of using PICs just to have both. You'll have such a shock your hair will fall out. So you really must choose Pics or hair. :-) Regards John Samperi ******************************************************** Ampertronics Pty. Ltd. 1
Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by MoreOrLess
Interesting thread but back to the topic of AVR Magazine. I have subscribed to Servo since the premiere issue. While an AVR article shows up now and then they are few and far between. Most are for the PIC family. If Servo don't straighten out there act and start supporting AVR mo
Re: magazine
2009-12-21 by blue_eagle74
Alot of good info. Thank everyone for your input. I was thinking of using PICs just to have both. Right now I have a 500 and love it. Brian --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "blue_eagle74" wrote: > > I have been reading the circuit celler and nuts and volts. It seems that alot of
RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Mega 1280 with AVR Ice-cube?
2009-12-21 by phillip@bartal.com
Thanks or that link. I have placed an order. From: John Samperi To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/15/2009 08:20 PM Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Mega 1280 with AVR Ice-cube? Sent by: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com At 10:53 AM 16/12/2009, you wrote: >Does anyone know anything about th
Re: [AVR-Chat] cheap source for lcd bezel
2009-12-21 by Jeff Blaine AC0C
Dave, That's a great idea. But for prototyping or something that you are just wanting to hide the jagged edges from the cutout, a standard bezel is what I'm trying to find. I've seen some of the self-adhesive type of bezels and that looks like the best solution. However, not at $
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Dennis Clark
... And Microchip's developer support is second to none in my experience. Atmel, not so much - However, both have an experienced and chatting developer support network in the form of "us". :) I like them both, and use them both professionally. DLC > The hardware is not the only s
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by leon Heller
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Clark" To: Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine > ... And Microchip's developer support is second to none in my experience. > Atmel, not so much - However, both have an experienced and chatting > devel
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by STEVEN HOLDER
The hardware is not the only selection criteria, the required development tools, experience with the devices and already designed modules that can be used and intefaced quickly should also be classed as part of the expense. Time is "expensive" also. Regards --- On Mon, 21/12/09,
RE: [AVR-Chat] cheap source for lcd bezel
2009-12-21 by Dave McLaughlin
I agree, I normally drop the cutout, hole etc close to where I want it and then use the properties window to move it where I want it. You also have to remember that the object centre is the X and Y coordinates which makes it a little bit of work to convert from CAD drawings where
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Zack Widup
I have had that problem with accidentally programming the AVR for an external crystal. I have an STK-500 and it allows you to rescue the chip with parallel programming. The STK500 is well worth the cost. The only drawback is, I wish it came with ZIF sockets. I'd be willing to pay
RE: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Dave McLaughlin
That is certainly the case now but 8+ years ago this was not the situation. The only ICE that was viable was the RF Solutions ICEPIC but even this was over US$1500 at the time and this was with only 1 daughterboard and you needed more than 1 if you wanted to use other devices. Wa
RE: [AVR-Chat] cheap source for lcd bezel
2009-12-21 by Steve Hodge
I've used them too. The results are great but their software could do with some improvement. It is in fact pretty frustrating until you learn the key is to always work with the "object properties" window. Steve From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On B
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by David Kelly
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:06:41PM -0000, leon Heller wrote: > > Designers select a chip which gets the job done as cheaply and easily > as possible. In some situations it might be an AVR, in another it > might be PIC, or something else. Only *good* designers do that. Others have
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by David Kelly
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 04:41:08PM +0200, Roland Jollivet wrote: > I prefer the idea of using the Pic because I was around at the time of > it's release, and really applaud the idea on focusing on selling > chips, rather than trying the stiff the customer with high priced > tools
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by leon Heller
----- Original Message ----- From: "Zack Widup" To: Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine >I have had that problem with accidentally programming the AVR for an > external crystal. I have an STK-500 and it allows you to rescue the chip > with par
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Roland Jollivet
I prefer the idea of using the Pic because I was around at the time of it's release, and really applaud the idea on focusing on selling chips, rather than trying the stiff the customer with high priced tools. So I think there is quite a bit of loyalty/allegiance to Microchip stuf
RE: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Tim Mitchell
----Original Message---- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roland Jollivet Sent: 21 December 2009 14:41 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine > But I always thought it was dumb too, that the Atmel chip > had to b
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by leon Heller
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave McLaughlin" To: Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:19 AM Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] magazine > Hi Brian, > > > > I started off with the PIC myself. I chose it because I could buy a cheap > starter kit and start programming it easily. I then st
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by leon Heller
----- Original Message ----- From: "blue_eagle74" To: Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:50 AM Subject: [AVR-Chat] magazine >I have been reading the circuit celler and nuts and volts. It seems that >alot of projects are for the PIC. Is the PIC better to use? Is there a >magazine m
RE: [AVR-Chat] cheap source for lcd bezel
2009-12-21 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Jeff, I have found the following to be great for creating some excellent home brew front panels and avoid having to find a bezel. I try to find a suitable box first and then create the panels with their software. The final results look very professional, albeit at a slightly h
cheap source for lcd bezel
2009-12-21 by Jeff Blaine AC0C
Just about every AVR project I make has a LCD 2x16 or 4x20. Finding cheap LCD is easy. Finding cheap bezel to put over the LCD, so it looks nice in the home-brew hacked box, that seems hard. I can't follow a $6 LCD with a $4 trim bezel. That makes no sense to me. Does anyone have
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by John Samperi
At 04:02 PM 21/12/2009, you wrote: >Motorola dominated the microcontroller market with HC05 and HC11. Those chip NEVER existed according to Motorola/Frescale. Regards John Samperi ******************************************************** Ampertronics Pty. Ltd. 11 Brokenwood Place
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by David Kelly
On Dec 20, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Dave McLaughlin wrote: > The PIC has the advantage that nearly all the electronics magazines do > articles on it so that is maybe why it is more popular. Do you say PIC is more popular because you see it in magazines, or because it is more popular it
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by dlc
The PIC is the 800 pound gorilla, and because Microchip NEVER obsoletes a part, it is the 8 bitter of choice for a commercial project. However, for the hobbyist, the AVR is the better choice (IMO) due to the open source capabilities and the far less expensive programmer hardware.
RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-21 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Brian I have used the AVR for a lot of hobby projects and this year when I started my own business I designed my first commercial project with the AT90CAN128. This was quite tricky as I had to do the PCB design and the software for it in a very short time. It was designed to m
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Mike Payson
FYI, in the latest beta of AVRStudio, the 32k debugging limit was removed from the $50 AVR Dragon. It can now debug all Atmel 8 bit hips that support JTAG or DebugWire. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Dave McLaughlin wrote: > Hi Brian, > > > > I started off with the PIC myself.
RE: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Brian, I started off with the PIC myself. I chose it because I could buy a cheap starter kit and start programming it easily. I then started using it in my work place and we purchased an ICE for it. For hobby use I was finding debugging a major issue without the ICE and I star
Re: [AVR-Chat] magazine
2009-12-21 by Jim Wagner
On Dec 20, 2009, at 6:50 PM, blue_eagle74 wrote: > I have been reading the circuit celler and nuts and volts. It seems > that alot of projects are for the PIC. Is the PIC better to use? Is > there a magazine mainly for the AVR that I don't know about? I'm not > asking which is be
Re: magazine
2009-12-21 by blue_eagle74
Dave, I agree with you. I started researching the PIC and the AVR seemed so much more simple and cheaper. In the future I would like to see a magazine or something that deals with the AVR and CV using C. This sounds limiting since there are more options than I know about but want
magazine
2009-12-21 by blue_eagle74
I have been reading the circuit celler and nuts and volts. It seems that alot of projects are for the PIC. Is the PIC better to use? Is there a magazine mainly for the AVR that I don't know about? I'm not asking which is best but why all the PIC projects? To me the AVR is alot ea
RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-19 by Cat C
Thanks Don. ---------------------------------------- > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > From: dkinzer@easystreet.net ... always write a quick program to toggle an output pin or generate a signal using a timer. Also, some AVRs have a "CLKOUT" signal which will make available a full-
RE: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-19 by Cat C
Thanks Tim. ---------------------------------------- > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > From: tim@sabretechnology.co.uk > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:51:15 +0000 ... > Also if you have another AVR board with external crystal on you can run > that up and connect one of the XTAL pins o
RE: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-18 by Cat C
Thank you Jim. That reminds me that I do have all kind of signal generators :-) Cat ---------------------------------------- > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > From: wagnerj@proaxis.com > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:06:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega
Re: Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-18 by Don Kinzer
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Mitchell" wrote: > Also if you have another AVR board with external crystal on you > can run that up and connect one of the XTAL pins on it to > drive your defunct board. I believe that that tactic will work only if the operational AVR board
Re: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-18 by Jim Wagner
Should have said hex inverter! Jim Wagner On Dec 18, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Jim Wagner wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Cat C wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> The subject says it all. >> I don't think I can fix it with ISP, but might JTAG work? >> With a Dragon? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cat >>
RE: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-18 by Tim Mitchell
----Original Message---- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cat C Sent: 18 December 2009 16:31 To: avr-chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parall
Re: [AVR-Chat] Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-18 by Jim Wagner
On Dec 18, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Cat C wrote: > > Hi, > The subject says it all. > I don't think I can fix it with ISP, but might JTAG work? > With a Dragon? > > Thanks, > > Cat > > Make an external oscillator! An 74HC04 (I think thats it, quad inverter). Put a 4.7Meg feedback resist
Made mistake with fuse on Mega88: set to external crystal. Can it be fixed without parallel programming?
2009-12-18 by Cat C
Hi, The subject says it all. I don't think I can fix it with ISP, but might JTAG work? With a Dragon? Thanks, Cat
Re: [AVR-Chat] A couple of 168p questions
2009-12-18 by Philippe Habib
Thank you for the replies. In both cases, that's what my reading of the datasheet led me think. I was just hoping I was wrong and had overlooked something. On Dec 17, 2009, at 8:07 PM, John Samperi wrote: > At 02:58 PM 18/12/2009, you wrote: >> ADC inputs are also general purpose
Re: [AVR-Chat] A couple of 168p questions
2009-12-18 by John Samperi
At 02:58 PM 18/12/2009, you wrote: >ADC inputs are also general purpose I/O pins. ...except for the M168 family... :-) ADC6 and ADC7 are only available for the TQFP or MLF packages and are inputs ONLY. Regards John Samperi ********************************************************
Re: [AVR-Chat] A couple of 168p questions
2009-12-18 by Jim Wagner
On Dec 17, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Philippe Habib wrote: > I'm using a 168p on a project and I've run into a couple of things > that I want to make sure I got right from the data sheet. > > The first is using the ADC7 pin as an output. Can that be done? My > compiler tells me the requi
A couple of 168p questions
2009-12-18 by Philippe Habib
I'm using a 168p on a project and I've run into a couple of things that I want to make sure I got right from the data sheet. The first is using the ADC7 pin as an output. Can that be done? My compiler tells me the required defines are not there and all I see in the datasheet is a
Re: 90can128 can controller
2009-12-16 by blue_eagle74
Thanks, I have the files just need to figure out how to use them. Any hints? Brian --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > If your C programming is good, you could try porting the Atmel CAN bus > library to CV. > > I did this for a project last
Re: Half duplex UART with the USI
2009-12-16 by Donald H
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Les Grant" wrote: > > Hi all, > > It looks like I can implement a half duplex UART with the USI on a > tiny45 on a single pin (Tx/Rx on DI) rather than the usual separate > DI and DO pins. Can anyone confirm if this is possible please? Yes, be su