Re: Novice ABW Question
2006-12-25 by Clayton Jones
Hello Ryan, ... I print using ABW with a 2400 and I assume the 3800 is the same, or at least similar. I set No Color Management in the Color Settings
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-24 by gcwagner
I have tried the B&W Channel Mixer in PS3 and it is very similar to the one in Lightroom. I am trying to determine where Lightroom fits into my work flow. I
Novice ABW Question
2006-12-24 by Ryan
Having recently aquired the Epson 3800, and it is my first K3 printer with ABW printing option, I have a question about printing from Photoshop. Normally, when
Re: Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-24 by Mark Stracke
When you are in the Develop Module the Greyscale Mixer controls are hidden until you select the Greyscale option within the Basic controls. At the top of
Help understanding density values?
2006-12-24 by njfranknj
I have borrowed a Macbeth TR524 CMYK densitometer, but I m having trouble trying to understand the values it reports in terms of color shown in Photoshop. I m
Re: [Digital BW] Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-24 by btvarner
Thanks Gary, I just did not realize that this options was not available until after the image was changed to Grayscale. Does anyone else think this is a great
Re: [Digital BW] Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-24 by Tom Husband
About half way down this page there s a Quicktime tutorial called Black & White Conversions: http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html Tom ...
Re: [Digital BW] Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-24 by Gary Brown
Download the CS3 beta, there is what at first glance seems to be a very good conversion tool for B&W. It can be found at Image-adjustments-black and white.
Carbon longevity was [Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Tyler Boley
more comments, http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/piezography3000/message/27416 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/piezography3000/message/27417 merry whatever
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Paul Roark
... That could well be. I would also distinguish between carbon only and black only. I was trying to limit my statement to carbon. Even the PKN that I ve
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hi Ed, ... Thanks very much but I ve already seen B3 prints from a 2400 so I know what it looks like. I appreciate your willingness to do that but I wouldn t
[Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello Mike, ... Yes that s correct, except that to avoid confusing this Black mode with BO, which is something quite different, we are urging everyone to use
[Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello Lee, ... Sorry, we are trying to avoid confusion. The 3800 has a setting called Black which is completely different than ABW. This Black mode appears
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO
2006-12-24 by edrudolpho
Hi Clayton... I recently printed out a step wedge with gradient file using IJC/OPM with a profile that used *only* the K, LK and LLK. The file was quite
[Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Tyler Boley
... That has not proven to be the case with some other inks. I m concluding from this and other issues mentioned over the months that there are more
Clayton....you're nominated!
2006-12-24 by sagaface
B3 is the next leg of the BO adventure....will you indeed do some reporting for us? Your BO articles were so helpful to me...my work is so well suited for BO
Black Only Vs desat black / UT7/2200 ?
2006-12-24 by djon43
Printing at 1440 I find Black Only and Photoshop-one-step-desaturated black are very close, and match my monitor visually very closely. However, at 6X9 the BO
[Digital BW] Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO - thanks, Clayton!
2006-12-24 by sagaface
I only consider the 4000 because of the BO capabilities. I currently use a 2200 and would like to print a bit larger. Otherwise I d definitely go for the 4800
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Michael King
I suspect that BO means grey only i.e. PK/LK/LLK ABW uses Y, LC,LM as well. So you still get 3 great choices. BO, ABW and Full colour. Mike ... [Non-text
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Lee Hiers
OK, I m totally confused... Is the B3 mode on the 3800 the same as ABW? I was really hoping for decent BO performance out of the 3800...combined with ABW and
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Paul Roark
Dave, (Not sure if I m the one you were asking, but I ll share my opinion, for what it s worth.) I ve never been thrilled with the tone of carbon or the
Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello David, ... I agree, it much better than BGG . ... At this point I ve only seen a ramp and step wedge. I can say that it s much smoother and will
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO - thanks, Clayton!
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Sarah, I agree with David Keenan, let s call it B3, ok with you? Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at
Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello Scott, ... Yes, that is correct. At that time I had not seen a B3 print (yes David K. I agree on using B3 - much better than BGG , thanks). I was
Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-24 by btvarner
I have just downloaded Adobe Lightroom Beta 4.1 and have been playing with it. I am told that it contains what is possibly a better tool for conversion of an
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO - thanks, Clayton!
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello Sarah, ... Don t be so quick on that decision! This might be something really good. Looking at the ramp I can see speckles of paper white quite far
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello Eddie, ... I can t say for certain about yellow. Steve Karafyllakis just got a 3800 and made a PK Black print (a step wedge with ramp) on glossy paper
Re: [Digital BW] Re:roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-24 by atodzia@cox.net
www.shadesofpaper.com has the D-roller on sale with free shipping.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO - thanks, Clayton!
2006-12-24 by atodzia@cox.net
I wouldn t get the 4000 for B&W. I would get the 4800.
Re: [Digital BW] Re:roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-24 by atodzia@cox.net
It s differences in coatings on paper. Using regular Epson luster and glossy paper, and similar papers, you don t need to increase dry time or worry about
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO - thanks, Clayton!
2006-12-24 by sagaface
I was quite excited about that possibility wwith the 3800, due to some previous posts. Guess I ll scrap that idea and consider a 4000. Sarah
Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by David Keenan
Oops.... My question about B3 vs. BO prints should have been directed to Clayton.. Sorry about that... Dave. -- My Photography: http://www.david-keenan.com My
Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by David Keenan
... Let s call it B3 . Paul -- What is your opinion of B3 vs BO prints? Dave. -- My Photography: http://www.david-keenan.com My Blog:
Re:roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-24 by David Keenan
... What would the print time have been WITHOUT the delay? ... Thanks, guys. This makes me feel more confident. I have read here about the 4800 having some
Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by scott_now_coming
... And you know this to be true why? Your last PM to me, you said you were trying to nail down if the 3800 uses only Black ink or if it also uses some of the
Re: 4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO
2006-12-24 by eddiegnz1
Isn t it also true that the printer also uses a tiny bit of yellow (or some other color and not just the K, LK, LLK)? ... It ... LLK, so ... or ... the
Re: [Digital BW] Color/B&W Measurement Learning Material
2006-12-24 by Geoff Meadowcroft
On 24 Dec 2006, at 06:34, Bob Marsolais wrote: Mentions to the Lab measurement system and other measurement methods are often made on this forum, and I m sure
RE: [Digital BW] Color/B&W Measurement Learning Material
2006-12-24 by Paul Roark
Bob, With respect to the colors and where they are on the Lab scheme of things, see my cheat sheet at http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/RGB+Lab.jpg The Lab
Color/B&W Measurement Learning Material
2006-12-24 by Bob Marsolais
Mentions to the Lab measurement system and other measurement methods are often made on this forum, and I m sure I m not the only one who does not understand
Re: Epson 4800 BO vs C-86 MIS -EZ
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Hello Scott, ... Please, Scott, the Black setting is _not_ BO. BO means Black Only, literally meaning one ink. The Black setting on the 4800 and 3800 is
4800/3800 "Black" setting is not BO
2006-12-24 by Clayton Jones
Please everyone, Stop referring to the Black setting in the 4800 and 3800 as BO. It is _not_ BO. BO means Black Only, meaning just one ink. The Black
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Latest QTR profile experiments
2006-12-24 by Stephen Billard
Better still, turn it into a PDF and we will include it with the QTR distribution and reference it from the QTRgui Help menu. -Stephen www.sbillard.org/Stephen
Re: [Digital BW] Re: PremierArt Smooth Fine Art (Hot Press) and HPR question (Paul?)
2006-12-24 by Peter Palmieri
I thought that Epson UltraSmooth Fine Art Paper and PASFA (Hot Press) are the same papers? Peter ... From: Tom Husband To:
Re: [Digital BW] Re: PremierArt Smooth Fine Art (Hot Press) and HPR question (Paul?)
2006-12-23 by Tom Husband
Also these guys should have it: http://www.itsupplies.com/cgi-bin/itsupplies.storefront/458dbc4506bf2264273f4200c14c0659/UserTemplate/2 ... [Non-text portions
roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-23 by bwinkjet
Dave, It is not a looming disaster. I have tried it with Epson glossy papers, Ilford Gallery Smooth Glossy, Lexjet fiber gloss, black and white and color and
Re: [Digital BW] Re: roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-23 by atodzia@cox.net
OK. Here are the stats I have from my 3800 log. It sounds like you might want to wait awhile until more user feedback is available on the 3800 before buying
RE: [Digital BW] Re: roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-23 by John Moody
Disaster is a bit strong, but if you want the most professional results on a wide variety of glossy papers, do not get a printer with pizza wheels. In my
D-roller for 3800 (was: Re: roller marks with 3800)
2006-12-23 by Bob Michaels
www.d-roller.com has the answers to your questions. Don t even have to google this one.
D-roller for 3800 (was: Re: roller marks with 3800)
2006-12-23 by David Keenan
... D-roller? What is a D-roller? How would one make a D-roller? Where would one buy a D-roller? Why would one want a D-roller? Dave. -- My Photography:
Re: roller marks with 3800 (was: Re: Epson 3800 for digital negative
2006-12-23 by David Keenan
... But hang on a sec. What does a one second dry time do to the overall time it takes to have a finished print??? I don t give a rat s ass about perceivable