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Re: [Digital BW] Epson 3000
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
I have used them long time ago. Had 2 lousy 3000 printers. Lots of banding and paper handling troubles. Piezo prints are flawless with piezo driver. MIS inks
Epson 3000
2002-07-25 by grdglass@aol.com
Is anyone on this list using a newish Epson 3000 for MIS or PiezoTone inks? Any comments on your experiences with it? Helene
Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by grdglass@aol.com
CD, I wanted and hoped this one would do it all -- one printer, color and b+w, no metamerism, no CIS s -- you know, plug n play...push one button :) It is
Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by grdglass@aol.com
Simon, The mid to highlight tones were green in daylight and magenta in tungsten. To me, that is the most objectionable form of metamerism (just my opinion). I
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Hi Jan, Yes, a tossup is a fair statement. I think my digital images look nicer than the film print of the same image though. I always thought I was a picky
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Robert G. Morrison
... Right...in many ways working with film is cheaper...a 4000dpi 35mm scanner can be had for much less than $1000. However, the real cost of film is in how
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Thanks Ernst, Well that would explain it. I ve always wondered why my bigger prints are better than the 8x10 s! Jerry
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
... I d not call my images inferior in any way. I meant the ... I rarely take lousy images. They d never get on the computer. or the film was improperly ...
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Austin, I d sure like to see one of your 35mm provia images. I d like to really see the fantastic detail and sharpness of which you speak. Jerry Again, you
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
High Their Austin! ... I live in North Dakota. (Somebody has to) My reality is not yours. In REALITY, ... I certainly know that. Usually my #2 pencils. There
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Moreno Polloni
... occasionally ... more ... dishing ... On the contrary. 4000 dpi 35mm scanners are commonplace these days. You can buy one of these and an SLR for less than
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by janishilesh
Austin and Jerry, I have just such an image if either one of you are interested (BTW I am not particularly interested!) The same scene taken with (1)Nikon D100
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Hi Austin, Cluck Cluck Ba WAAk! :) Austin, when you use the best equipment there is, I understand that your scans are going to be superior to my little but
Re: [Digital BW] Time taken on individual prints, re: JerryOlson's statement
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Hi Stan, ... Ah, but how many of us routinely unsharp mask in the darkroom? Who can afford the time? the materials? The time? The cost? the Hassle? Not I. ...
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Hi Robert, I love my digital camera...don t get ... I know. But I think Austin thinks everybody has access to these high end scanners. I am always speaking of
Re: [Digital BW] Which A3 printer: 1270/1280, Canon S9000, or new Epson 2200?
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
The 1280, and MIS VM inks, or FS inks are great. They just came out with yet another inkset. Very reasonable cost, high quality prints. Don t know much about
Re: [Digital BW] Time taken on individual prints, re: Jerry Olson's statement
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Hi Herb, Austin and I are always arguing about sharpness and digita photos versus film. I m always saying that digital, sharpened photos can beat film photos,
[Digital BW] Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink set
2002-07-25 by antonisphoto
David, is it true that EyeOne can (or will in the near future) read the actual light falling on a print and balance the profile for that? Is there s/w that at
Re: [Digital BW] New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info onEpson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Keith You heard it here first. They are wonderful. In the past, they never used to be. There are no noticeable color crossovers either. Just reporting what I m
RE: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Austin Franklin
Bingo, Robert, that is exactly what I have been saying, and...you seem to corroborate my claims too. Thanks!
RE: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi Jerry, ... No, Provia is not lousy film, but I have not seen the images you are comparing to...so I can only guess they are inferior, and that inferiority
RE: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Austin Franklin
... Ah...your just chicken ;-) Regards, Austin
RE: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Austin Franklin
... Probably not...unless you decide to look at some REAL images to compare your D60 images to...not those from flat bed scanners and Pentax P&S cameras ;-)
RE: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Austin Franklin
... Jerry, you aren t listening. Sharpness has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. It s purely YOUR metric, and a dubious one at that. As I ve said, you can get the
FS: MIS FS Inkset & Carts for 3000
2002-07-25 by ricm95901
I have a partially used - 90% - MIS-FS pint set and carts for a 3000 for sale. $100 delivered. Contact me off list if interested. Thanks - Rick Murai
[Digital BW] Which A3 printer: 1270/1280, Canon S9000, or new Epson 2200?
2002-07-25 by Paul Roark
Herb, ... Going up to a 1270 would allow you to use the same curves for each machine, and there would be no surprises. ... MIS told me it takes a different
Which A3 printer: 1270/1280, Canon S9000, or new Epson 2200?
2002-07-25 by hsitz
I ve been using an Epson 870 printer with MIS VM inks and have been satisfied with it. But I m getting the itch to be able to print larger format pictures. It
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
... Yes, for landscapes, you do need more resolution. It s like shooting video, ... Right. ... My thoughts exactly. ... In the latest Tom O connel exchange, I
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Bob, I know this is very weird, but if I have a 40 or so MG file, my larger prints are always sharper than my small ones. A 13 or 15 inch print is always
Re: [Digital BW] Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by CDTobie@aol.com
... It can t eliminate it, but a profile can be used to steer it; to make the print look good under a given light source, or to compromise for a range of light
Re: [Digital BW] Time taken on individual prints, re: Jerry Olson's statement
2002-07-25 by Stan McQueen
... I believe Jerry was talking about traditional unsharp masking in the darkroom, not digital unsharp masking in PhotoShop. Stan
Re: [Digital BW] Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by Simon Lamb
Would it be possible to expand on the metamerism that you are seeing - the conditions, how it exhibits itself etc? The metamerism of the 2000 was quite
Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by grdglass@aol.com
I have a b+w print from the 2200. It was printed with Ultrachrome inks, Matte Black, on Epson Enhanced Matte. Although far less than the 2000, metamerism is
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Bob Frost
Hi Jerry, Daring to dip a toe in these turbulent waters, I was interested in some other results of Norman Koren with a 1270. He measured the sharpness of the
Re: Lyson SG - My experience
2002-07-25 by Keith Cooper
Hello I d echo the comments about paper choice and metamerism. A Lyson dealer here in the UK sent me a sample set of all of their papers to test, so I added
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Robert Morrison
Jerry, I really think you continually miss Austin s point. He is not saying that your prints...or the output from a D60...or any other digital camera are not
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Ernst Dinkla
... From: Jerry Olson To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW]
Re: [Digital BW] Time taken on individual prints, re: Jerry Olson's statement
2002-07-25 by hsitz
Jerry -- Thanks for the info on your workflow. It s always interesting to hear how people work. Actually, I wasn t paying close attention and foolishly
Re: [Digital BW] New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... To my knowledge, this is the first time I have EVER seen someone say the OEM 1280 inks could make dead on neutral B&W prints... If your statement is
Re: Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Bruce
on 7/24/2002 10:22 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at ... Jerry et. al: Jerry, when you say that closeups look sharper than wide shots this
Re: [Digital BW] Image Quality Debate
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Stephen, Austin and I argue all the time about film vs digital. We just don t agree. P.S. He is always wrong. :) Jerry
Re: [Digital BW] New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
For me, it depends on the color of the metamerism and the amount. If the print looks perfect in daylight, (Epson s 1280 oem inkset can print beautiful black
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
AAAARRRRRrrrrrgh! Enough! We ve gone over this many times before, Austin and I. He ll never convince me film is better, and I ll never convince hime digital
Re: [Digital BW] Time taken on individual prints, re: Jerry Olson's statement
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
Herb, ... Yes its true. But I would never have done it in the darkroom. WAY too expensive and time consuming. I currently work on anywhere from 30 to 60 prints
Re: [Digital BW] New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)
2002-07-25 by Martin Wesley
Richard, I have a couple of samples of 7600 output. Two images, each printed on Ilford Satin and Oce Fine Art. All of them are okay but exhibit split toning
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
At the luminous landscape site there has been several comparisons between digital and film. Digital has always won in comparison to Provia 35mm film, at least
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
I can t tell you how many top professionals have stated in print that scanned images ALWAYS need at least a little sharpening. ... Sure. Make the sharpest scan
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
... Yes, they were Rolleigon, not Rolleinar for the medium format cameras. Sorry. ... Crooks! :) I suppose Hassleblad lenses are now made in Korea or Taiwan by
Re: [Digital BW] Canon D60 Question
2002-07-25 by Jerry Olson
... I know that. Who in the world has time to print hundreds of images in the darkroom using unsharp masking techniques? Not me! ... I know that. I used to