Re: [Digital BW] Best method for printing b&w.
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
Yes, but it s a shame they won t last long. Jerry
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2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
Yes, but it s a shame they won t last long. Jerry
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
I was speaking of the long lived Archival PIGMENT inks from MIS, NOT the dye colors. I have never used their dye inks. Sorry If you thought I was referring to
2002-01-09 by Austin Franklin
... You mean using Paul Rourke s curves, not using just the black ink and the Epson dither...right? Using only black ink and Epson dither yields large black
2002-01-09 by nsimms
I ve got a VM inkset on the way for my 1160, and have been playing around with the workflow to make sure I understand it before the ink starts flowing. I m
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
George, You cannot tell the difference in sharpness between a piezo print and an epson driver print. Both are equally sharp, assuming you are printing at 1440
2002-01-09 by david_nancy_bogart
Sorry if this has been covered a thousand times, but in reading hundreds of posts I couldn t find the answer. I bought an 1160 and the original MIS quadtone
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
I don t think there are a lot of downsides Austin. If you are using Epson Archival Matte, or Epson Watercolor paper, Paul s curves give you very close to what
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
Get a 1280 and a Niagra CIS from media street. You ll have the latest printer, and the quality is fantastic. Jerry I ve seen them for $459 in some of the
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
I find the 1280 slightly smoother, and more detail in shadows than the 1160. Just a little. The 1160 seems a tiny bit sharper than the 1280. Jerry
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
NO, I m talking about PIGMENT inks. Generations, from Media Street, Archival Color Pigments from MIS. Jerry
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
MIS says they last that long according to tests at RIT. Remember, I m speaking of the PIGMENT inks, not dye. I ve been using Generations and MIS Archival inks
2002-01-09 by Jerry Olson
Nope. I was speaking of MIS ARCHIVAL PIGMENT Color inks. They have nearly the same gamut as the epson inks. With proper profiling, I doubt if you d notice much
2002-01-09 by jacques10040
Todd, Thanks for your reply. The answers to your questions are yup, yup, yup, yup, and yup. As I mentioned in my original post, I followed the Roark workflow
2002-01-09 by Daniel Perez
Contact Paul directly and ask him for the latest curves for the 1280/mac set up. You also might want to enquire as to where he is in the development of these
2002-01-09 by Moreno Polloni
... Aren t we all.
2002-01-09 by jacques10040
Moreno, Thanks. I hear you. I m working on the neutral curve, clipping black by 6 points, bumping the 90% point to the right about 10 points, and pulling the
2002-01-09 by jacques10040
Daniel, Thanks for the heads-up. I m using PS6 on Mac OS 9. Where can I get the latest versions of the curves? I followed the link from MIS to Paul Roark s web
2002-01-09 by jacques10040
My 21-step wedge looks fairly good, with a solid black and slight compression in steps 7-12 (from the black end). Jacques Cornell ... breaks? ... the ... MIS
2002-01-09 by Euphy Scott
Don t know if its any use to anybody looking for 1160s in the UK, but I ve just noticed dabs.com in the UK has them listed for 225 pounds a pop. Does anybody
2002-01-09 by Moreno Polloni
... I m experiencing similar issues. Previously I was using the Brandin Curves on an 1160. No posterization, but murky, low contrast shadow detail. I m now
2002-01-09 by Todd Flashner
In addition to the replies from others, you need to make sure every setting is is correct in the Epson driver, such as media choice, gamma, automatic, etc.
2002-01-09 by Daniel Perez
Jacques, What platform are you working on? I believe the curves for PC have been better worked than those for mac(and if you are on PC, what OS?). For the
2002-01-09 by markhahn2000
I guess I wasn t clear, but I did the purging and cleaning in three steps over a 24 hr period, so impatience wasn t the problem. I called Bob at MIS and he
2002-01-09 by daschkenas@aol.com
Sam I forgot to add, I m not sure what MIS calls the dyes, i think they just refer to them as OEM equivalents, as opposed to the MIS pigs that they call
2002-01-09 by daschkenas@aol.com
Sam, you heard me correctly. The b&w prints with the MIS PIGS with the CDT profile, do not look anywhere near as good as b&w prints with MIS dyes, and the
2002-01-09 by tzinzunzan2000
How is your step wedge printing out? Are there noticeable breaks? Chris Hargens ... more ... what ... full
2002-01-09 by jacques10040
I ve installed MIS VM ink carts on a 1280 and tried the Roark workflow current on the MIS site, but my prints are coming out slightly posterized in the
2002-01-09 by daschkenas@aol.com
Daniel, I have never tried the MIS VM hex s or quads, just the MIS dyes to PIgs. I d be glad to send a sample print to you made with the MIS color dyes, a b&w
2002-01-09 by jacques10040
I d really appreciate it if someone would let me know where I can get cleaning cartridges for the Epson 1270/1280. The only source I ve found so far is
2002-01-09 by Sam A. McCandless
Just to be sure I understand, David: the dyes were better despite the fact that you had a custom(CDT)-made profile for the pigments but _not_ for the dyes? And
2002-01-09 by Julian Thomas
has anyone tried the new FS throught the cone driver? Julian ... Julian Thomas Bruc 168-6-1 08037 Barcelona Website at www.foundobjectsgallery.com Gallery at
2002-01-09 by Julian Thomas
Possibly, but if he has an investment in the software and likes the advantages of the paper profiles, FS is cooler than piezo. From what I ve seen (admitedly
2002-01-09 by Nikki Pedersen
... Jerry, you re probably right. Epson Co. is a modern story: the tech is striving to solve and please, while quality control is asleep on the job. I could
2002-01-09 by antonisphoto
... Daniel, Hahnemuehle papers are distributed under different names. Take a look in our Files section for more info. Besides inkjetmall, they are also
2002-01-09 by Daniel Perez
David, did you ever get to compare your b&w MIS pigment prints against an MIS VM (hextone)print? Or have you compared your b&w MIS dye prints to a VM print?
2002-01-09 by antonisphoto
Dave, can t you just order on-line direct from inkjetmall.com? Antonis
2002-01-09 by Kevin Bjorke
?? thanks kb
2002-01-09 by shashinka@aol.com
In a message dated 1/8/02 5:45:24 PM, jerryolson@rrv.net writes: Hi Jerry: I m wondering what data/observations
2002-01-09 by Frank Mares
Thomas, Thanks so much for this nice curvaceous software. Frank ... From: Thomas Fors [mailto:tom@fors.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:38 AM To:
2002-01-09 by Austin Franklin
Todd, Tanks for da tip! (Arnold S, Kindergarten Cop...to the young boy whose father is a gynecologist and explained to Arnold what boys have and what girls
2002-01-09 by Paul Roark
... and ... I m not sure what the Piezo 2100 claim means. It does not mean resolution in terms of line pairs/mm -- that is, it is not a sharpness difference.
2002-01-09 by Todd Flashner
Austin The one thing I see occur is that some new users don t realize that each printer and OS platform needs a specific set of curves. So when you get your
2002-01-09 by Mark Carpenter
... The times quoted by Epson don t take into account air exposure. I had a print from a 1270 (same inks(?)) turn orange in a matter of weeks. It was printed
2002-01-09 by Richard Wolfson
... Austin, I ve been using MIS VM-hex quads too, although I ve been using PressReady to print in CMYK mode, and using my own CMYK partitioning curves to get
2002-01-09 by daschkenas@aol.com
To my understanding, MIS makes, pigment inks, and dye inks. I didn t think that the dye sets had any pigments in them. I tried to print b&w with the MIS
2002-01-09 by Andre Vallejo
I ve been reading that the Epson driver cannot deal with more then 360dpi of the image resolution,and trows away any exceeding,and that the Piezo one can hold
2002-01-09 by Austin Franklin
Paul, Excellent work! Thank you, that was a perfect overview, exactly what I was looking for! I may have to try it on my own then. I currently use 3000s...an
2002-01-09 by wilfred71118
I have been reading with great interest the current post about the methods to produce b&w. I have been paying close attention, especially since Paul and Jerry
2002-01-09 by toomagenta@aol.com
In a message dated 1/8/2002 5:10:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... There is something I am confused about here. How can these look as good as the piezo software
2002-01-09 by Paul Roark
Peter, ... The hextone printers make better prints than the quadtone printers with the MIS VM inkset. I don t think the difference is visible in normal