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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-20 by J G Wong

Thom Somneevich wrote: > > And if you can figure out the pot, you should be able to figure out > how to > cv it. Then you could share the schem...? I bet that a rotary encoder might work right off the pcb, if I can tap the the pulse source.the shafts on these things are small lik

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-20 by Thom Somneevich

And if you can figure out the pot, you should be able to figure out how to cv it. Then you could share the schem...? I tried to figure out how to do it from studying the MiniWave schem, but the different chips are being interfaced/clocked differently, and I scratched another bald

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-20 by Thom Somneevich

Then a dual, triple or octal wavebank is doable in MOTM format, I think. Does anyone know what pushbuttons MOTM and Oakley use, for esthetic continuity? :) thom ----Original Message Follows---- From: sasami@... Reply-To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com Sub

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-20 by J G Wong

The Wiard Mini wave uses a pot to advance waveforms and on the fly it could get you where you are going quick. It does need a pulse but it would probably be pretty easy to get a stepped encoder to do the trick. As surplus these days really high quality components could be had. I

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-19 by sasami@blaze.net.au

>I think a switch or a pot (pot preferred) would be better than a push >button on a dual wavetable module for my use a button will get used too >much and I would be largely using a match paired table setting with >detuning on the vcos classic technique stuff. That would be "inter

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-19 by sasami@blaze.net.au

>Ken -- what are the dimensions going to be on the display? Will we be able >to fit two on one panel? >Any preferences on pushbutton styles? The main bouard of the display is 2.2 inches square BUT the displays themselves sit at 90 degrees to that is 0.6 inches wide and 2.2 inches

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-17 by sasami@blaze.net.au

>How's that display board coming Ken ? Still 2-3 weeks away. How many of these display boards are people wanting? The initial run will only be for ten of them, though if enough people stake a claim early enough (this weekend), I may be able to get more done at the same time. Unfo

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-17 by Thom Somneevich

I didn't think you were dissing them, just telling what happened. I like the Stooges too, but it's good to know what you know, ya know? I'm not that good at electronics. How would you wire up the pot? I don't even see where to wire the switches in the schematic, now that I look.

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-17 by J G Wong

I realise I sounded like I was dissing the stooges. I apologise if it seems so. I will continue to buy their beautiful work, including their, pcbs, panels and flat rails. The only place to get them. I think a switch or a pot (pot preferred) would be better than a push button on a

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-16 by Thom Somneevich

Ouch. Well, I'm going to order a couple panels from Schaeffer to see if I got it right on the design tip. Shipping is ~$22 for bad, and I've got to get quite a few, so... I'm going to get a least a Dual Psycho LFO, Oakley wavefolder, VCO and triple EG. Buy 5 of any one design and

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-16 by J G Wong

The last time I ordered stooge panels it took almost four months compared to four days from shaeffer. It screwed me up so bad I had to shelve my Oakley vcos because I couldn't schedule build time, that is not cool. I paid them to drill them and they drilled them off center, Well

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-16 by Larry T.

The Stooges will do anything. But the cost per panel is very high in single quantities. As the quantity goes up, the unit cost goes down. That's why I was suggesting a common panel design for some of Ken's PCB's, and then get a group to order so we could make then affordable if w

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-15 by Thom Somneevich

How much do they charge for shipping? Are you in the US? I think the Stooge panels look better, from the pics. Larry/Gino: Will the Stooges do anything you design or do they just do limited runs of Dark Star designs, for example? ----Original Message Follows---- From: J G Wong ad

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-15 by J G Wong

I have been buying shaeffer panels and stooge panels and had some fabricated elsewhere and it turns out that the shaeffer panels are a pretty good deal esp at the current exchange rate. g wong Thom Somneevich wrote: > > Who are you going to use for the frontpanels? I like the ide

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by sasami@blaze.net.au

>Only thing is that the vinyl will probably be white with black lettering. I tried using black vinyl on a couple of modules, with good effect. The vinyl I used was cut directly off the front of some of those business diaries. These things usually come hot-stamped in gold, and if

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by Thom Somneevich

I don't have any of my designs done yet. I have an Oakley TB3030M, and it's nice. It's dark bronze. The pictures are on his site; all his stuff is done by Schaeffer. When I finally order my stuff (I'm broke right now -- panels for me or presents for others -- it's an annual quand

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by Larry

Thom Do you have any way of taking a picture of a couple of your Schaffer panels and posting them? Maybe you could do a color scan of them? I have not seen any of their completed work (that I am aware of). I believe that you can post to the Photos section. Larry --- In cgs_synth@

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by Thom Somneevich

2u Schaeffers are about 55dm -- so about $27, not including shipping. No minimum order. If you order 5-9, it's 10% off. -20 is 20% off, and -30 (in case you want a _lot_ of psychos!) is 30% off. They're actually engraved and inked, not printed. I just did a 5u Serge-style layout,

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by Larry

What do the Schaeffers cost? And what is the minimum order quantity? As for the Stooges, cooould beeee. It's a shame that this kind of fab work is so expensive. Tom at EFM is looking into a printed vinyl self adhesive overlay for his modules, and he might, just might, be interest

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by Thom Somneevich

I don't think Schaeffers look _exactly_ like MOTM, but the same as Oakley (I started the panels from modifying his VCO file), which is good enough for me. But I'd be interested in going in on a run nonetheless. Seems like Schaeffers cost about the same, but shipping from Germany

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-13 by sasami@blaze.net.au

Larry Troth wrote: >with MOTM. OTOH, some of Ken's designs are NOT competing with MOTM >and, if there was a demand, they might do the do the panels outright >and make then available independently. They do their layouts using >Corel Draw, and can work from our masters or create on

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-12 by Larry T.

In order to protect the guilty, I was looking at working with some folks that are already doing custom MOTM panels. Then can do panels for anyone, but do not wish to create conflicts with the actual MOTM product line (very wise on their part I think). They normally do not drill t

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New file uploaded to cgs_synth

2001-11-12 by cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the cgs_synth group. File : /Front Panel Designs/psychoburst.fpd Uploaded by : thom_s4@... Description : psycho lfo and burst generator sharing a panel You can access th

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-12 by Thom Somneevich

Who are you going to use for the frontpanels? I like the idea of using Schaeffer because I know the software and don't have to worry about cutting the metal and getting the mounting holes right on, but it seems kind of wasteful to ship it all the way from Germany. If you have som

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Re: Front Panels

2001-11-12 by sasami@blaze.net.au

I think it is a good idea. At the time the form factor of the MOTM modules was being discussed, I was also looking at what form factor to make my own modules, and was involved in the discussion with Paul, along with other SDIY members. I came to a descision before Paul, and chose

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Front Panels

2001-11-11 by Larry

Hi All What follows is a posting I did to the EFF Support group. But the same idea applies here. While Ken does not supply full kits, there is still a need for front panels for the completed modules. So, that being said, is there any interest based on what follows? Since EFM supp

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Re: New file uploaded to cgs_synth

2001-10-25 by Thom Somneevich

I can't think of how to transfer that file into a photo file so that you can see it. Can anyone else? I don't know much about that stuff, sorry. :) I agree about that format. Though ultimately more expensive and space-consuming (money and space being the two things I'm most short

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Re: New file uploaded to cgs_synth

2001-10-25 by J G Wong

Hi. This is great, I have been using Shaeffer panels a lot lately because they are wonderful. for theose of us who don't like the form factor of frac rac. Is there anywhere I can view this without special software? Since I am a Mac and Unix user I can't easily view .fbd files and

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New file uploaded to cgs_synth

2001-10-24 by cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the cgs_synth group. File : /Front Panel Designs/DUALPSYCHO.fpd Uploaded by : thom_s4@... Description : panel design for dual psycho lfo You can access this file at the

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Re: Sounds or Pics?

2001-10-23 by sasami@blaze.net.au

>I can email the file if anyone wants it (you need Schaeffer's >software to view it.) You could also put these files in the files section of the club. or even email them to me and I will put them up on the site (assuming you don't mind). >Ken, is there any glide w/ the pot set at

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Re: Sounds or Pics?

2001-10-23 by Thom Somneevich

I've got most of mine together, and I'm working on faceplates in the MOTM/Oakley format. A Dual Psycho LFO is done, but I haven't ordered it from Schaeffer yet, because I want to get a bunch of panels together to save on shipping. I can email the file if anyone wants it (you need

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Sounds or Pics?

2001-10-23 by kinetik synthetics

I've finally gotten around to working on some of Kens PCB's. I cant wait until they're completed! I was wondering if anyone has any audio files or pics of their completed modules. It would be intresting to see the solutions people came up with for mounting them. cheers, John ____

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Re: Updates

2001-10-22 by sasami@blaze.net.au

>I'm about to order the Mouser one, but I was thinking of the 105-2454 >(1/4" shaft) or 10WA144 (D-shaft), which have pc terminals. The ones >you listed have solder terminals. Since you so kindly planned them to >be pc mounted, and since I have a healthy aversion to offboard >wir

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Re: Updates

2001-10-21 by thom_s4@hotmail.com

I'm about to order the Mouser one, but I was thinking of the 105-2454 (1/4" shaft) or 10WA144 (D-shaft), which have pc terminals. The ones you listed have solder terminals. Since you so kindly planned them to be pc mounted, and since I have a healthy aversion to offboard wiring,

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Suboscillator boards available

2001-10-17 by sasami@blaze.net.au

I had a surprise delivery today - another batch of suboscillator boards. Project details at: http://198.164.142.50/~cgs/ Ken _______________________________________________________________________ Ken Stone sasami@... Modular Synth PCBs for sale http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/sy

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Psycho LFO

2001-10-15 by R.Fahl

Threw together a rough version of a Psycho LFO this afternoon. Fired it up a minute ago and used to modulate a VCO. It's a truly cool little LFO, can be set to do some fairly funky stairstep type sequences with cool little trills thrown in. Makes the vco sound kind of like an ove

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Re: Gate sequencer modification

2001-10-15 by R.Fahl

Speaking of which, I'd like to order two gate sequencer pcb sets. Time to replace the two clunky ones in my system. Romeo ----- Original Message ----- From: sasami@... To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 5:56 PM Subject: [cgs_synth] Gate sequencer modific

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Gate sequencer modification

2001-10-14 by sasami@blaze.net.au

My gate sequencer prototype tends to start off with two outputs high when first powered. Sending a reset signal cures this, so it isn't really a concern. Automatic resetting on power up can be achieved by soldering a 100n capacitor between the switched contact of the Disable jack

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Updates

2001-10-14 by sasami@blaze.net.au

I've added a bit more to the parallel port adapter project. There are now details on all four boards involved, as well as those boards being available for sale. Has anyone bought any of the Mouser rotary switches and trided them in the burst generator or gate sequencer projects y

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Update

2001-10-09 by sasami@blaze.net.au

Hands up those who found the error in the V8 schematic. :) An updated version is online with corrected output buffers. I was talking to the guy who organizes my PCBs. We share a batch as I don't have enough boards to justify doing a batch myself at the moment. The next batch of b

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Re: Wavetable Display PCBs?

2001-10-06 by sasami@blaze.net.au

New articles online. I've put up "preview" articles of two of the new projects - the pedal board/mini keyboard and the display adapter. Needless to say, I haven't tested these in their PCB form, as I don't have any boards yet. Ken _________________________________________________

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PCBs in the works

2001-10-06 by sasami@blaze.net.au

It's been amusing to see the discussion on SDIY about "divide by n" counters, as one of the boards in my next batch is exactly that. I took a digital approach, so it is a different design again. It was actualy an offshoot of the sequencer I was working on.... Also there will be a

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Re: Wavetable Display PCBs?

2001-10-06 by sasami@blaze.net.au

I'm not sure when the adapters will be in. They will be part of the next batch of boards. A friend has added them to a panel he will be getting etched, though I'm not quite sure when. Not enough of the last batch of boards has sold yet for it to be worth my while getting another

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Wavetable Display PCBs?

2001-10-05 by 8brain@spiritone.com

Ken, On your Wavetable page you mention that you developed a diplay adaptor for the Wavetable PCB. Any idea when you'll get those in? I want to order some pulse programmer sets, but would like to wait until you have the display adapters. Romeo

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Re: Mounting PCBs to Panels

2001-10-05 by 8brain@spiritone.com

You're right, I did mis-understand. That sounds like the third party (Larry Hendry?) MOTM mounting brackets, which are a good way to go. R. --- In cgs_synth@y..., sasami@b... wrote: > I think you mis-usnderstand how I mean. Certainly, the pot itself should not > be bearing any we

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Panel Formats

2001-10-04 by ltroth@socal.rr.com

Hi again Okay, so a bracket that the pots can bolt to the front panel sounds good. J. Larry Hendry does have them (check out HTTP://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/bracket.htm), and I've already bought 2 for the JHL-822 and JLH-831 boards I got. Actually, I'm going to order the MOTM f

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Re: Mounting PCBs to Panels

2001-10-03 by J G Wong

If you go here http://24.12.85.234/larry/ there should be some useful cabinet hardware. I got a bunch of MOTM style brackets (not the same) that secure to the panel and are punched to match 3 pots that secure to the bracket and the panel. it is heavy but it is a great solution to

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Re: Mounting PCBs to Panels

2001-10-03 by sasami@blaze.net.au

I think you mis-usnderstand how I mean. Certainly, the pot itself should not be bearing any weight on its contacts. What I mean is that you create a bracket which you anchor to the front panel by passing the threaded section of the pot through it, so that when you tighten up the

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Re: Mounting PCBs to Panels

2001-10-02 by R.Fahl

I don't like the idea of using pots to hold the PCB to the panel. If you move the modular around, for gigs or whatever, enough jarring can cause solder joints to break. Repaired many amps where this was the case. Romeo ----- Original Message ----- From: sasami@... To: cgs_synth@y

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Re: Mounting PCBs to Panels

2001-10-02 by R.Fahl

That usually means that a screw is cast onto the back of the panel. That's how MOTM panels are done. Personally, I don't think it harms the look of the panel to have screws visible, but that's me. Romeo ----- Original Message ----- From: ltroth@... To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com S

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