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2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
Martin, I am sure that it may have been an unintentional MISwording on Bob s part. I am sure he will graciously modify his statement. Regards, Michael J.
2001-08-18 by Tim Spragens
... Agreed! I m willing to listen to input from a knowlegable commercial spokesman, if it is clear that they are such. If such comments become mere
2001-08-18 by jvlist@home.com
... would be ... I guess I have my answer!!! Thanks, John V.
2001-08-18 by jvlist@home.com
... the MIS, and ... need for extra ... Hi Jerry, Long time no write! Hope you are doing fine! So you are saying I ll get Piezography quality with the MIS
2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
I thought I might take a moment and add my observations to the Piezo- MIS comparison data. Paul and I have finished the MIS Variable Tone warm curve for the
2001-08-18 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Tim, Todd, Everyone, If you look at the Description at the top of the group s homepage and read Post #1 that pretty much says it all. We will do whatever we
2001-08-18 by Tyler Boley
... Well, we also have the the Spectratones, the Lysonic quad inks, the Lysonic Small Gamuts, and if anyone wants to experiment, Ilford came out with an
2001-08-18 by Richard Wolfson
With all due respect, Martin, I dissent. These abbreviations would drive me batty. I d very much prefer people just type these terms more or less in full, at
2001-08-18 by Martin Wesley
Todd, Thanks for the alert. This groups was NOT formed around the use of or for the discussion of MIS VM inks! This is a forum to address ALL technologies for
2001-08-18 by Todd Flashner
... ... Martin, Antonis, As list owners you should know it appears that MIS is trying to appropriate your list, behind the scenes, for their own ends.
2001-08-18 by Jerry Olson
If you like cold tones, or warm, or anything in between, go with the MIS, and Paul s curves. Piezo quality at 1/5th the piezo price, and no need for extra
2001-08-18 by Johnny Deadman
on 8/18/01 4:57 PM, mwesley250@earthlink.net at mwesley250@earthlink.net ... I would also appreciate it VERY much if someone could put a page up somewhere
2001-08-18 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
One thing I have notice with the inkjet threads is that with the large number of ink sets, software, etc. we are discussing it is critical to include in each
2001-08-18 by Dan Culbertson
... Good heavens, the old R9 sure went up in price! When it first came out I bought it from Sundance for under $200 (around $150 I think). If it has
2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
Amazing, I found that with the 7000, the Cone Piezography inks build up a thick nasty paste on the head cleaning pads and capping station. I continually have
2001-08-18 by John Vitollo
Michael J. Kravit mentioned ... While doing the Windex trick on the head/capping station of my 1160 - I noticed the Windex still puddled up after a number of
2001-08-18 by Tim Spragens
That is distressing, not just for you, but for anyone wanting to use a CIS with a chipped cart printer. Do you know why it happened, or how to avoid it? Tim
2001-08-18 by John Vitollo
... I wish I could. But I have not used Piezography in a number of months as the Cone inks clogged up my printer and CIS. Had to return my printer to Epson for
2001-08-18 by Steadman Uhlich
Why don t you use one printer for PiezoBW inks and the other for the Variable inks. That way you could see a difference. ... From: John Vitollo To:
2001-08-18 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
... Inks to take ... Variable Mix Inks? ... Piezography ... John. Sorry, I´m not able to answer this because I killed my 1270 while installing the CIS
2001-08-18 by John Vitollo
Would it be overkill to have an 1160 with MIS Full Spectrum Inks to take advantage of the Piezography driver and another with MIS Variable Mix Inks? Or is the
2001-08-18 by Paul Roark
... The Piezo black and FS black (which is the same as the variable-tone, VM black) appear to be virtually identical to the Piezo black. I can t say they are
2001-08-18 by Michael J. Kravit
I printed a 21 Step Tablet with the Piezo BW24Pro (The Piezo RIP for the 7000) using the MIS variable tone inks. The result was smooth continuous tone steps
2001-08-18 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Dave, your input is very interesting. I myself was absolutely helpless with the wrong Woolf curve and tried to build my own curve - but results were
2001-08-18 by dave@tevisphoto.com
-snip Well.. the first go round on the new John Woolf workflow (the new one is posted 8-17-01, you could tell immediattly that the original workflow posted on
2001-08-18 by Nij
Dave, The software is only sold with inks, to the very best of my knowledge. I believe that ConeTech s position on this is that the software is designed for
2001-08-18 by Tyler Boley
... There s a loaded question! The answers will be subjective. The workflow with it is very straightforward, you stay in grayscale without dealing with
2001-08-18 by sdmey4@aol.com
In a message dated 08/17/2001 2:50:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, paul.roark@verizon.net writes:
2001-08-17 by dave@tevisphoto.com
Is there any benefit to using the Piezo software? I am using MIS FS inks and wondered if the Piezo is a rip system. If so is it any different than using
2001-08-17 by dave@tevisphoto.com
I m still playing with the workflows but so far I can say that the MIS FS inks are very nuetral on Glacier matte (same as lysonic matte) no warm tones at all,
2001-08-17 by antonisphoto@yahoo.com
Details of the planned September release of this paper in Germany are posted in our Files section, under the Paper Data folder. Provided courtesy of Bernd
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
... are based ... black -- which is ... that I think are ... the ink dots ... very well. ... sees a ... difference. ... (not the ... Paul, could you enlighten
2001-08-17 by als2169@yahoo.com
You did see the Legion Photo Matte 8.5X11 listed at 25 sheets on einks.net. It was our error, it comes in 50 sheet packages. The 11X17 and 13X19 come in 25
2001-08-17 by Michael J. Kravit
Bernd, Paul Roark has done significant amounts of testing with Piezo and MIS inks. The rate of fade and the rate of color change in the two inksets is slightly
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Paul, If you have any image files to illustrate a post, just send them to me or Antonis with an explaination of how you would like them described or titled. We
2001-08-17 by Paul Roark
... Correct. I have not fade tested the full Full Spectrum. They are based on the same black as the VM black, which is equal to Piezo black -- which is
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
... Bernd, I did get your message of today a little while ago and hopefully you got my response. (I don t normally have access to my e-mail during the day and
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Thanks Mike, I had a discussion with Paul about his comparisons. If I got him right, he used the classic MIS Quad inkset for comparison. But I may be wrong.
2001-08-17 by Michael J. Kravit
Since this is a Digital Printing List, I thought that I would announce the upcoming FotoFusion 2002 Confernce. This is a great event now in it s 7th year.
2001-08-17 by Tim Atherton
So has anyone compared the new MIS double Density black with the older standard MIS black? Tim A ... From: ruhrfoto@yahoo.de To:
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
????gitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., mwesley250@e... ... driver, ... workflow ... with the ... Martin: MIS and Woolf-workflow: visible dots under the
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Martin, did you get my offline-message some hours ago about using the Piezo driver and MIS FS inks (and BTW did you get my offline infos about Hahnemühle
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Another thought and question on this subject. If the MIS Full Spectrum inks can be used with the ConeTech driver, has anyone tried the ConeTech Piezo inks with
2001-08-17 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
... using John ... been ... the ... Spectrum inks ... FS inks ... way to
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Dave, How much improvement are you seeing in the blacks compared to the ConeTech inks? Any green tint problems? Martin ... (snip)
2001-08-17 by dave@tevisphoto.com
I ve been using them for a short time now. The biggest differences are... MIS changed the arrangment of the inks to match the piezo system (though they don t
2001-08-17 by Paul Roark
... I think the 1280 makes slightly better prints than the 1160 with the Variable Tone inks. However, I know what to look for in test strips. In actual
2001-08-17 by Paul Roark
Martin, ... MIS doesn t like the term, but I call the Full Spectrum inkset the, Cone Clone. It is definitely a cheaper way to use the Piezo software. Like
2001-08-17 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
I noticed on the MIS site under News the mention that the Full Spectrum quad inks can be use with either the Epson driver using John Woolf s workflow or with
2001-08-17 by Steadman Uhlich
Mike, The Eclipse Satine is entirely different from the Xtreme Gamut Satine. I have both and have printed with both. The XGS has a more velvet finish (more