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2008-12-12 by Walker Blackwell
Thanks for the info Jon. Your aren t loosing me to color inks. I m just forced to build bw workflows for our 11880 printers in Chicago and (I guess) Germany.
2008-12-12 by CDTobie@aol.com
... You won t get spectral data out of Spyder3Print. But in terms of L*a*b* values: I measured all the patches on a ColorChecker with one of our spectros, and
2008-12-12 by Jon Cone
Paul, I may take the time over the holidays to make spectral comparisons with Spyder Pro. I just found a kit here in R&D and yes its a single reader. This
2008-12-12 by bfwoolner
Have ordered a refurb 3800 from Epson and have no room to keep my 2 year old gently used refurb 2400. The printer works perfectly and I have used it with MIS
2008-12-12 by Jon Cone
Hey Walker, Go into the reference files of the MeasureTool and look at the text format of the existing targets. It is not obvious how they organize the data to
2008-12-12 by pr_roark
... The PFP 2 that I use reads individual patches. I think it s the best way to go for reading 21-step test files, which is what I do. I do not read large
2008-12-12 by Walker Blackwell
Jon. Do you have a MeasureTool TXT file for that 256 target? I am working on a BW workflow that will let me match any hue value from any BW printing process
2008-12-12 by Jon Cone
Paul, Does the Spyder read single patches or rows? I am under the impression it reads rows or is semi-automated to eliminate human error. It would seem the
2008-12-12 by pr_roark
Jon, ... Will a standard 256-Step grayscale test target like below work? http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/256-Step-GS.jpg Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2008-12-12 by Roger
Maybe it was a bug in a recent build but I had problems using the Spyderprint3 measure mode. It s fine for the Paul Roark 21 step step wedges but I have a 60
2008-12-12 by Jon Cone
David, I have a user on this list right now trying this with a DTP70. We hope to have a K7 profile made this morning. Do you think that the Spyder software has
2008-12-12 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Thats a choice in Spyder3Print when building profiles, not a driver choice. C. David Tobie WW Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging & Home Theater
2008-12-12 by CDTobie@aol.com
... That would be possible, but the Spyder3Print software will already allow you to save any set of measurements that you want as Lab values. You can extract
2008-12-12 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Correct. The linearization process, and the CreateICC profiling process occurs in the QTR and CreateICC software. The only function that Spyder3Print
2008-12-12 by Jon Cone
Brian and David, Its still not clear to me that the Spyder is going to automate anything for Brian when he tries to profile a dedicated b&w ink. It seems like
2008-12-12 by Cdtobie
The other thing to keep in mind is that our product s goal is to build ICC profiles. A few users would also like to take spot measurements, so we include
2008-12-12 by Cdtobie
Seems to work just fine...mostly it s relative anyways, you are just evening things out on a relative manner. C. D. Tobie WW Product Technology Mngr. Digital
2008-12-12 by Brian Corll
David, ... So….how do I use the new StudioPrint to make B&W density measurements for linearization ? Knowing that, it’s simple to plug the values into QTR
2008-12-12 by Brian Corll
Thanks very much, David ! That explains it all. Now to measure 729 little squares…. ... Brian Corll 1002 East Simpson Street Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Tel.:
2008-12-12 by Cdtobie
When you print the target without color management, it prints correctly, which looks too dark. That is not an intent issue, it is a misperception regarding how
2008-12-12 by Cdtobie
When the printer manages color it s still doing a conversion, so can still use a rendering intent. When there is no color conversion (as when a target is
2008-12-12 by Brian Corll
Let me expand on what I just said – when I print the 729 targets from Spyder Print the colors are too dark. The same happens when I print from within
2008-12-11 by Brian Corll
OK – but when I’m printing from Photoshop and letting the printer manage the colors (no color management checked in the printer driver of course) I still
2008-12-11 by Tyler Boley
Good grief, that sounds awful! I hope you are OK Duane. I really apreciate your reply. The only thing I might add for anyone else following this is that there
2008-12-11 by Cdtobie
Targets aren t printed from a colorspace; they are printed raw, defining the printer s native space. Since there is no conversion, the target prints the same
2008-12-11 by Brian Corll
And does it matter if I print the targets with the Adobe RGB color space instead of sRGB if I m always printing with Adobe RGB ? I don t see why it should. ...
2008-12-11 by Brian Corll
On the 2200 driver that I have (5.9 for Windows) there is no selection for either absolute grays or paper relative grays. One other question - which rendering
2008-12-11 by cdtobie
On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:36:48 PM, Brian Corll wrote: Hmmm.I thought I had all my ducks in a row, but I may have goofed somewhere. I ll
2008-12-11 by Brian Corll
Hmmm.I thought I had all my ducks in a row, but I may have goofed somewhere. I ll try it again and see how it goes. Thanks, David. ... Brian Corll From:
2008-12-11 by cdtobie
On Dec 11, 2008, at 2:56:15 PM, Brian Corll wrote: Just made my first Spyder3 Print profile today. I did a profile for Epson
2008-12-11 by donbga
Hi Barbara, ... Epson.com/USA is lists refurbished 3800s for $895 and free shipping. I don t think you pay tax on that either. Don Bryant
2008-12-11 by Brian Corll
David, Just made my first Spyder3 Print profile today. I did a profile for Epson Enhanced Matte paper on the Epson 2200 using standard OEM inks. I add the
2008-12-11 by dlruckus
Hi Tyler. Looking at the MSDS of each of these products, it appears the difference is that the primary ingredient of Simplegreen is Butyl Cellosolve, a
2008-12-11 by pr_roark
I think Eboni can hold it s own, on average, against the HP dmax figures. Right now Eboni is looking like it ll stay my 100% MK. The first centrifuge test
2008-12-11 by cdtobie
On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:54:20 AM, Ernst Dinkla wrote: Is there any list created with L or D numbers that you can save or is that
2008-12-11 by pr_roark
... This is the 21-Step I use most of the time: http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/21-Step_0-100_L16_16-bit-top.zip ... Read Tom Moore s tutorial that ships with
2008-12-11 by Ernst Dinkla
... Measured the black of several Z3100 calibration targets lying around here that were made over the past months and for Photorag they all stay above D 1.7.
2008-12-11 by Ernst Dinkla
... Is there any list created with L or D numbers that you can save or is that list hidden in the software directory or worse encrypted and only temp.
2008-12-11 by Jim Goshorn
So if I have the general gist of the conversation, you can use a luster paper like Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Baryta or a matte paper like Epson UltraSmooth which
2008-12-11 by mccormick.mark59
... Sorry I m late to the party. This thread has many interesting comments, and I would like to jump in at many points. Yahoo s rather non-intuitive threading
2008-12-11 by Cdtobie
One would make them exactly like with the EyeOne, but using our spectro to measure the patches and export the measurements. Sorry to dodge the question, but
2008-12-11 by Roger
I think this discussion has now completed a full circle. It originally started with a discussion of acidity as a limiting factor for print life then evolved to
2008-12-10 by Dale Hoffman
Barbara, You didn t say what platform you are printing from but one reason I gave up my Epson 3000 was the absence of a driver for the latest Mac OS. Dale
2008-12-10 by Jon Cone
David, Can you detail the process how someone would make their own set of seven curves with Spyder for QTR and the Piezography K7 inks? That would be of great
2008-12-10 by bfwoolner
Please ignore the last post. What could I be thinking, considering this old workhorse when the 3800 is not that much more when ink is considered? I will
2008-12-10 by bfwoolner
Is this printer still a viable option for printing today? It is for personal use only and I would probably swap out carts from B&W to color. Speed is not a
2008-12-10 by cdtobie
On Dec 10, 2008, at 4:45:56 PM, Brian Corll wrote: I just received my Spyder 3 Studio and I m looking at the targets and the
2008-12-10 by Brian Corll
I just received my Spyder 3 Studio and I m looking at the targets and the profiling procedure in the help file. I understand how to profile using the standard
2008-12-10 by Ernst Dinkla
... Black and White mode of the Z3100 driver. On Photorag measured on the QTR 4x21 step target (two extra sheets of Photorag underneath it) an average D 1.772
2008-12-10 by pr_roark
... That s what I recommend as the simplest solution. It prints smoothest when you use a curve (in an ICC) that starts with only one channel and then adds the