Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test > now PIEZO FADE TESTS
2002-03-25 by Steadman Uhlich
Bob, Just to be fair...did you also have a silver gelatin and RC print up there too? Steadman ... From: Bob Obenland To:
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Re: [Digital BW] Offtopic--Photoshop 6/Mac OSX problem
2002-03-25 by Robert Morrison
... Nope, turned out to be twain related this time. I had the memory problem before and had photoshop set at the low defaults when it happened. Now that I ve
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi Todd, ... Sounds good to me...but I ve never explored specifically what is the source of noise in the digital printing system. It may be other than noise
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test > now PIEZO FADE TESTS
2002-03-25 by Todd Flashner
... Mostly we read reports of the fade/warming of the black inks. What I fear most is the fading of delicate highlights. I would think the weaker tones would
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test > now PIEZO FADE TESTS
2002-03-25 by Bob Obenland
... I have just re-reviewed some natural light fade tests of piezo inks on a variety of papers. The prints are not protected by glass (except the window in the
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test (M&M sample) -- & Enhanced K
2002-03-25 by Todd Flashner
... Thanks for that Paul, I didn t realize you had that posted. Yes, the warming is troublesome and more than I expected. Just curious, are you leaving the
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Todd Flashner
Austin, ... I Getcha. ... I follow. So back to the step wedges... At each end of the scale either process (inkjet vs silver) will give you it s paper white for
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi Herb, ... Your definition of dynamic range is the same as Martin s (was), it s misinterpreting what maximum and minimum mean. Dynamic range has
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test (M&M sample) -- & Enhanced K
2002-03-25 by Paul Roark
Todd, ... Well, I think it could be significant. But, as noted in my last posting on the subject, I think the Epson Archival Matte just may not be the best
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by hsitz
It strikes me that some of the confusion in this discussion regarding dynamic range and density range might stem from the fact that, density range , as
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Great show featuring our own Alan Zinn
2002-03-25 by Don Eby
... Sorry it took so long, I have been away.. The show is open Monday-Friday, 9am to 4pm. I do not know how long it will be there. It is in the Albertus Magnus
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi Todd, ... Their apparent dynamic range is equal...since you haven t hit a wall with either. Correct that if the dMax - dMin of the silver print is a
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Todd Flashner
Austin Bringing this conversation back to the print, let s take a hypothetical. One prints identical complex step wedges (lets assume one with enough steps
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test (M&M sample)
2002-03-25 by Todd Flashner
... Paul, Good points on the paper and that the fading, while more than the VM-K, really isn t that bad. In light of the fact that the Indelibles K, and Gen K,
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range - picture describing terms
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi, Here is, what I consider, a very succinct picture that shows what largest and smallest mean with respect to the definition of dynamic range:
Re: [Digital BW] Offtopic--Photoshop 6/Mac OSX problem
2002-03-25 by John Brownlow
... this is a memory issue. Try taking the photoshop memory partition right down to the defaults and see if it launches then. If it does, you can start raising
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by btmcelhaney
Cheap is relative! I totally agree with John,,, but then again I make my living with a camera. Any camera intended for a child needs to be user friendly as
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by James E. Martz
... What. **************** James E. Martz Milan, OH jemartz@earthlink.net *****************
Flattening roll paper curl- a solution
2002-03-25 by Mark MacKinnon
I wonder why you just don t use flat paper to begin with. Hahnemule sells their paper in 46 x 35 sheets, and it works out to being nearly half again less
RE: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test (M&M sample)
2002-03-25 by Paul Roark
Jerry, The enhanced K has never done well in my fade tests. I think that the dye on EAM is a combination that does not optimize the enhanced K s life. I
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Martin Wesley
... From: Austin Franklin To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:48 PM Subject: RE:
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi Martin, ... Well, it s not really a good definition, as it leaves the definition of weakest and strongest ambiguous. Which is at the heart of the
osX ps7 and background printing
2002-03-25 by soprisghile
Thanks to visionaries at our little company, we are getting a new, faster-than-God G4. I am a PC person with not much mac experience. Is it true that the Piezo
Where to buy EAM in San Fransico?
2002-03-25 by flyfishingusa2002
Hi, I am visiting San Fran in a couple of days, can anyone recommend a good place to pick up some EAM, (or is it EEM?), in larger sizes? Thanks Barry
Re: Bill's New List was Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Bill Morse
Kids, the key word in the name of the new group is the word just after The... In fact, I ve changed my mind, the new group is: TheNoise@yahoo.com lessISmore
RE: Bill's New List was Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
... Yes, Martin, it may be a vaulted space, but will it have any dynamic range, or just be all noise ;-)
Bill's New List was Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Martin Wesley
Bill, My plate is full. Can you moderate that one for me. I d really appreciate it. But the range of your URL address is much too compressed to encompass
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
... Well, I don t believe I said they must be , but they are in every case I ve seen (and I don t believe it s important to the discussion if they are
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Martin Wesley
... From: John Brownlow To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: Re:
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Bill Morse
I ve got it- start a new list- we ll call it: TheNoiseOfNeverEndingDynamicRangeOrIsItDensityRangeButItHasShitToDoWithB&WDi gitalPrinting@Yahoo.com list! Just
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Bill Morse
Then maybe you should take it off list ;-) on 3/24/02 6:29 PM, Martin Wesley wrote: Bill, I my opinion none at all which is my point. Sorry to bog down like
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
Hi Todd, ... I ll do my best, as I have a somewhat clear head right now...could last only about 15 minutes though ;-) ... A very good question. One bit only
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by Todd Flashner
... Please don t. This discussion will continue to rear it s head here until it s finally put to bed. I agree it might not be everybody s taste, but you are,
Re: [Digital BW] re: For Della On Shadows
2002-03-25 by toomagenta@aol.com
In a message dated 3/24/2002 10:45:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... At the risk of being redundant, isn t it exactly the same situation with silver prints?
A Newcomers View
2002-03-25 by smichener
Hello Friends, First and foremost, I probably speak for a number of eavesdropping members of this group when I thank you for sharing your knowledge and ideas
Just for Austin
2002-03-25 by Steadman Uhlich
Hey Austin, You may not believe it...but I really do learn something in just about all of your posts. I may not agree with all you write...but generally I
RE: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by John Brownlow
... Austin, you are quite correct in making the distinction between density ratios and dynamic range but your statement that density ratios must be integers is
Re: [Digital BW] Dynamic Range
2002-03-25 by John Brownlow
... your rubber band is not a signalling system s/n ratios only make sense in the context of representational systems if your rubber band was somehow being
RE: [Digital BW] re: For Della On Shadows
2002-03-25 by Austin Franklin
... Doesn t differ from my perspective. I completely agree, and feel exactly the same way. Piezo works perfectly for me (now) and I have absolutely no
Re: sorry, offtopic..
2002-03-25 by tomoc
Piotr- Just use a similar one... Either photo quality glossy film or photo quality inkjet (I have an 1160, so they may be labelled a little differently on
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by John Brownlow
... cheap guitars, same thing hardest damn things to play in the universe -- John Brownlow http://www.pinkheadedbug.com
Re: [Digital BW] re: For Della On Shadows
2002-03-25 by Martin Wesley
... From: Steadman Uhlich To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: Re:
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by Jerry Olson
Don t make the camera too cheap, or the kid will lose interest fast. Just like a cheap telescope. Can you imagine how many young careers in science and
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by Jerry Olson
Paul, the rebel is cheap, and you have the canon lenses.... Jerry
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test (M&M sample)
2002-03-25 by Jerry Olson
Paul, I just don t understand how this is possible! Your 300 hour test showed nothing like this, EAM paper has always been one of the best with pigment inks.
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by Steadman Uhlich
Interesting point there Jer. When I think back on it....my first camera (that I remember) was a Kodak 110 camera....that despite my best attempts, never
Re: [Digital BW] Indelible Black Fade Test (M&M sample)
2002-03-25 by Robert Morrison
Yeah...and I didn t give him a bogus inks sample!!! I m exonerated!!! Robert ... Robert Morrison rmorrison@pobox.com 310-397-2704 4131 Bledsoe Ave. Los
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by Jerry Olson
Cheap? about $350 minimum, if you want quality Jer
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by byronbulb
... up to ... carry a ... I don t think there s anything on the market that is both cheap and flexible enough to handle a trip s worth of images. There are
Re: [Digital BW] OT -- Cheap digital camera for kid
2002-03-25 by John Brownlow
one of the things about digicams is that you BURN through the images I have 2x256 Mb cards for my Nikon E5000 and I regularly shoot both of em full in a